Easiest way to trade friends and family money?

Quote from pistolpt:

I am a noob in the sense that I have not traded futures daily for 10 years.
I have been backtesting strategies and trading for a while.

The backtested results are volatile enough to scare most of my family members crapless. I also explain to them that this could get ugly, for a while, if things turn against my strategy.

My uncle who's given me money wrote me an email with the great "risk factors" disclosure - "I understand that I may lose part or all of my money".

No, they are not HNW. Just looking to add some zip to their portfolios. Usually less than 3%.

IB looks good - I'll go there. Thanks.

Care to share the stats of your trading strategy?
 
You're newbie? Give your uncles money back and tell him to go on a cruise . Don't be an idiot while taking advantage of an idiot.
 
If it is all back test and not at least some months of real trades you have to be crazy to take their money. Put up your 20K and trade. Six months or a year from now you can take a modest -- very modest -- amount from those you know who can afford to lose every last dime the put with you.

The markets will be there when you are ready but back test numbers do not make you ready.
 
Quote from Swan Noir:

If it is all back test and not at least some months of real trades you have to be crazy to take their money. Put up your 20K and trade. Six months or a year from now you can take a modest -- very modest -- amount from those you know who can afford to lose every last dime the put with you.

The markets will be there when you are ready but back test numbers do not make you ready.

I agree.
 
Quote from pistolpt:


But yes, I am a "noob". Gotta start somewhere man.

Is it worth your relationships being awkward or even hostile if something goes wrong? What if they want to pull money during drawdown? What if you lose it all?

Don't put yourself through all that, use your head.

If you've been in business for a number of years and can pull money out of the market with low drawdown then cross that bridge later. Now is not the time if you are a noob.

Uncle billy bob sounds just as clueless.
 
Quote from Zr1Trader:

Is it worth your relationships being awkward or even hostile if something goes wrong? What if they want to pull money during drawdown? What if you lose it all?

Don't put yourself through all that, use your head.

If you've been in business for a number of years and can pull money out of the market with low drawdown then cross that bridge later. Now is not the time if you are a noob.

Uncle billy bob sounds just as clueless.

+1
 
Quote from pistolpt:

Some of my friends and family have seen the results of my strategy and want in. My uncle was so excited he just up and sent me a check for 10k to invest in the strategy!

My question is what is the best way to go about this. I know my strategy will work and want to make them all money while at the same time build an audited track record. Only running 20k now, but I am sure more will want in soon.

Any advice guys? Thanks.
sounds like a disaster to me, especially the "I know my strategy will work" part.

Blowing up OPM is really horrible. You have to lay low, and when they finally die you are relieved.

I know ib has "Friends and family" accounts, but it makes no sense unless you can pool it. You have 20k, and on top of that you"re going to try to trade a 10k account? What kind of sense does that make?

The only one that ever worked out for me was a 50/50 partnership. The investor loaned the partnership the money (back then at 10% interest) and we split the profits 50/50.

He closed out during a drawdown and forgave the parthnership the interest. But it was nice while it worked. I was able to withdraw enough to cover my taxes for the partnership and my taxes from being a stockbroker. It didn't last long, but I lived one year tax free.
 
Never traded OPM but the part about being relieved sounds right -- lol. I almost can't believe that would be the case but in my heart I know it probably is!

Quote from oldtime:


Blowing up OPM is really horrible. You have to lay low, and when they finally die you are relieved.
 
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