I don't know about long vol on those trades, but moves like those are why I like to buy wings. I agree that negative skewness in the return profile doesn't matter in the long run as long as the strategy has positive expectancy, but one loss like that could easily wipe out months of gains.
I've always been skeptical of long vol earnings trades due to my backtest results. Maybe that's because I haven't found a good way to incorporate kurtosis into my analysis. I plan to work on that at some point, but for now I think I'll stick with short vol until I find something viable.
EVT is generally used from a risk management perspective, and requires a lot of data to be useful. With earnings we only have a small sample for each stock, which makes it very difficult to statistically identify potential outliers. Best bet here I think is fundamentals, though that would require digging through troves of filings and news articles to identify outlier candidates.I believe the math topic we are looking for is called "Extreme Value Theory".
I've noticed the same thing, which is why I initially thought of double calendars to play high IV earnings, with the strikes placed close to the implied move.Regarding high implied, one of the things I was puzzled by is that earnings seem to generally normalize at a fixed spread slightly above or below the actual moves.
This is something I'm yet to find a good explanation for. Intuitively the best short vol candidates should be the stocks with the highest implied moves, but turns out to be the other way round due to the reason you mentioned.I initially would’ve expected a wider margin on the more volatile ones because the shorts are taking on more variance. Like 9% implied over 8% avg move is a different trade than 3% implied over 2% avg move.
I've always been skeptical of long vol earnings trades due to my backtest results. Maybe that's because I haven't found a good way to incorporate kurtosis into my analysis. I plan to work on that at some point, but for now I think I'll stick with short vol until I find something viable.