Earnings journal

I am Short GIS straddles. Into earnings.
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BlueWaterSailor said:
Argh. Always sucks when a trade rebounds after you've exited the damn thing.

Any thoughts on skip-strike flys for earnings? I looked at one on the put side for CBRL yesterday in the few minutes I had, and it looked like lower max profit but zero risk/positive P&L to the upside.

(I'm really focused on figuring out flys right now, but can't find any useful reading material. Putting them on and watching them is... somewhat useful, but frustratingly slow.)
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Usually I think of an outcome and then pick a strategy to play that view rather than the other way around. So I don't think I will be much help with skip strike bflys. Regarding regular butterflys, I am just looking for a pin to my strike. I buy the wings for margin and safety purposes.
 
Imo, to learn more about debit butterflies; deconstruct it into short straddle and long strangle. The components are a little easier to understand in isolation from each other. Just starting out I don't know if there's much benefit haggling over the strike symmetry. Shape of the smirk allows for a little optimization but whether your vol thesis is good or not will primarily drive the expectancy of the trade.
 
Magic said:
Imo, to learn more about debit butterflies; deconstruct it into short straddle and long strangle. The components are a little easier to understand in isolation from each other. Just starting out I don't know if there's much benefit haggling over the strike symmetry. Shape of the smirk allows for a little optimization but whether your vol thesis is good or not will primarily drive the expectancy of the trade.
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Magic any chance you are short adbe or gis vol? Both of then were on my short list (however I did not take ADBE).
 
TheBigShort said:
Usually I think of an outcome and then pick a strategy to play that view rather than the other way around. So I don't think I will be much help with skip strike bflys. Regarding regular butterflys, I am just looking for a pin to my strike. I buy the wings for margin and safety purposes.
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I agree, very strongly; in fact, I mention that point repeatedly in my journal. However, I'm still at the point of trying to learn the tools themselves before I can use them... just now getting to have some degree of confidence in doing the wheel, and am desperately trying to get past being a one-trick pony so I can apply the right tools for the conditions. That's something I really, really want - and have been running at top speed to get there for the past half a year or so.

But thanks, the bit on regular flies is helpful. I still have only a vague idea of how to do anything directional - much less aiming for something as precise as a pin - but I'm working on improving that as well.
 
Magic said:
Imo, to learn more about debit butterflies; deconstruct it into short straddle and long strangle. The components are a little easier to understand in isolation from each other.
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I appreciate that, @Magic - thank you! In fact, thanks to @destriero 's kind help in another thread, I've been deconstructing everything and considering it from those perspectives. Frankly, it's turning my brain inside out... but I obviously need to learn to think that way, and get so used to it that it becomes natural, so - no pain, no gain.

Just starting out I don't know if there's much benefit haggling over the strike symmetry. Shape of the smirk allows for a little optimization but whether your vol thesis is good or not will primarily drive the expectancy of the trade.
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Also useful - I'm not sure I could quantify how, but it just lit up a piece of my brain that went "ah-hah; that ties this and that together". Given that vol is what I ultimately want to lean into with options, that's a piece of the foundation I'm trying to build.
 
I have small size in GIS. Working on a few other things so I haven't spared too much thought about the recent releases. Was thinking about ADBE but I ran out of time before I was able to give it a quick look.
 
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