Earn2Trade Founder Charged With Fraud

The prop firm keeps the profit from the profit split of the traders, not Earn2Trade. The prop firm keeps 20%. The trader is responsible for their own exchange fees.

I gotta trade (not sim) but do you have any financial interest in the prop firm (sic)? What is the name of the prop firm? Of course they are not registered or exchange members, correct?
 
So you're stating here that your firm legit pays 2.25 per side?

That is only a default for candidates, because we can't customize every single asset we offer. However, of course we can set assets at their true rates for specific contracts that candidates ask for. We address this in our FAQ here:

https://help.earn2trade.com/en/articles/2425493-what-is-the-commission-on-the-gauntlet-gauntlet-mini

Commissions are also dependent on what platform is being used. You can see the rates here on our FAQ:

https://help.earn2trade.com/en/articles/4380589-commissions-for-ninjatrader-users-live-trading

https://help.earn2trade.com/en/arti...structure-at-helios-or-on-the-livesim-account
 
I do think that they could've revealed this on their volition -- b4 everyone read it on a public message forum

Nightmare, yes. But I think it would have gone a long way to protecting their street cred.
 
That is completely false. E2T does not receive any kickbacks on commissions for trades, and commissions are absolutely paid.

Earn2Trade makes its money from the subscription fees of the examinations. It is not a mystery. There are no illusions to dispel and there is no smoke in the air. The company has been transparent about the way it makes money from its first day of business, and sees no conflict in generating revenue from examination subscriptions.

The FCMs are interested in working with the prop firm because it can bring substantial trading volume generated from its traders. With over 500 traders having passed the examinations in the last six months alone, it is not a surprise that an FCM would be interested in working with the prop firm for the commissions it would generate.
"..Earn2Trade makes its money from the subscription fees of the examinations." sure it does becasue you have split it from the funding arm
but for general public they think that it is the same firm... and in the past it was agreed by your previous owner that there is common ownership of testing entity and funding entity! SO overall if you consider this as a single business activity real question is firms like your and similar one do they make money from fees or real profits..
is the Funding firm arms length and even if it is do you share profits? will you disclose it? and if you do then it is a very valid question if for all practical purpose the business model in it's entirety depends upon either 1) Lots of failed trader's fees or 2) finding really great traders very quickly and make money on each one of them..
 
I gotta trade (not sim) but do you have any financial interest in the prop firm (sic)? What is the name of the prop firm? Of course they are not registered or exchange members, correct?

The prop firm was previously under a different ownership structure but from what I understand and I'm not 100% definitive, Earn2Trade and Helios are owned by the same companies. They operate on a day to day basis separately from one another. The prop firm is not an exchange member and it is not registered.
 
"..Earn2Trade makes its money from the subscription fees of the examinations." sure it does becasue you have split it from the funding arm
but for general public they think that it is the same firm... and in the past it was agreed by your previous owner that there is common ownership of testing entity and funding entity! SO overall if you consider this as a single business activity real question is firms like your and similar one do they make money from fees or real profits..
is the Funding firm arms length and even if it is do you share profits? will you disclose it? and if you do then it is a very valid question if for all practical purpose the business model in it's entirety depends upon either 1) Lots of failed trader's fees or 2) finding really great traders very quickly and make money on each one of them..

Yes, we have never stated otherwise. We don't view this as controversial.
 
The prop firm was previously under a different ownership structure but from what I understand and I'm not 100% definitive, Earn2Trade and Helios are owned by the same companies. They operate on a day to day basis separately from one another. The prop firm is not an exchange member and it is not registered.


So he admits it.

You're selling fake lottery tickets on a street corner. I'm satisfied, thanks. I am done here.
 
I do think that they could've revealed this on their volition -- b4 everyone read it on a public message forum

Nightmare, yes. But I think it would have gone a long way to protecting their street cred.

We've been replying wherever it has been coming up. We have posted our statement and have been clear about our position.
 
The prop firm was previously under a different ownership structure but from what I understand and I'm not 100% definitive, Earn2Trade and Helios are owned by the same companies. They operate on a day to day basis separately from one another. The prop firm is not an exchange member and it is not registered.
SO a simple question if Helios and E2 T are owned by same people then the entire business activity: does it make more money by selling tests or share of trading profits ?
 
So he admits it.

You're selling fake lottery tickets on a street corner. I'm satisfied, thanks.

We are selling the opportunity to be funded by a trading firm. That trading firm provides you with an account in its company, starting capital and a majority percentage of trading profits. If you treat trading as a lottery ticket to be scratched then that is what your subscription fee will earn you. If you are a disciplined trader, you can pass and get funded, just as one of the more than 500 who have been funded in the last six months have done.
 
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