Firstly, it is not scammy. You can call it blue or pink or scammy or suede, it won't change that it is an effective risk management tool and we feel no guilt in employing it.
Nobody's asking for you guys to get rid of the trailing drawdown. We all understand as a prop firm, Helios needs to reduce their risk from traders whose only track record is a 15-day evaluation. It's the fact that Earn2Trade/Helios' trailing DD trails based on unrealized profit that's the issue here. If you need me to explain why this rule is bullshit to anyone that's not a scalper, then you clearly haven't traded for long enough or you're ignoring the probabilistic characteristics inherent in trading.
Secondly, we only posted what was written on their site. I didn't know there could be another interpretation of "liquidating intraday against unrealized PnL". We don't know why it would say that if it wasn't the case. You are stating that it trails on realized PnL, so it's a strange wording of the rule at the least, but I see what you are saying, and if I was mistaken then I apologize. We stated our reasons for trailing on unrealized PnL here, and if you were told otherwise by our customer support agent they may in fact be providing you with outdated information (or it was actually the case at the time you asked).
No, you did not "only" post what was written on their site. You specifically posted that in response to the previous poster's mention of TST as an alternative to Earn2Trade's trailing DD, effectively trying to
insinuate that TST's trailing DD is no different from your's in the live account. You were effectively spreading misinformation, albeit unintentionally. You're just trying to backtrack after I caught you with your pants down.
In the not so distant past, Rithmic's risk system only permitted trailing on EOD or on open PnL. They have changed that very recently. At the time, TST may have been able to do that with Tradovate or with NinjaTrader directly as they might have separate risk management systems. That is neither here nor there, because we have no intention of changing the trailing drawdown calculation.
Translation: Implementing a trailing DD based on only realized PnL (which benefits traders and gives them proper odds of succeeding) is clearly possible with Rithmic as evidenced by TST, but fuck that, we have no intention of changing the trailing drawdown calculation.
We have great respect for TST, but we do not have the same rules and we run a different program. Our examination has one step as opposed to two. We have a consistency rule while they do not. We do not restrict traders from trading events, and they do. There are many differences between our companies and our examination programs, however we would say confidently that if traders do not take our examination then we would happily recommend TST as the only other legitimate firm offering real trading accounts that we are aware of.
Yes, though it might seem like I have some kind of beef with Earn2Trade and am advertising for TST, the fact is TST has drawbacks that don't exist with E2T. They each have their pluses and negatives. The only reason why I'm vocal about this specific aspect of trading evaluations (trailing DD based on unrealized PnL) is that it's the #1 cause of failure for those attempting these trading evaluations, without contest.
It's not due to trading during economic events. It's not due to mistakenly putting on more contracts than one's allowed to. It's not due to lacking consistency or what not. No, it's overwhelmingly due to the trailing DD based on unrealized PnL.
Your chances of successfully passing a trading evaluation goes up exponentially with a trailing DD based on realized PnL, or a fixed DD like in the original Gauntlet. Hence the only evaluations I could conscientiously recommend is TST and the orginal Gauntlet
(NOT the Gauntlet Mini).