Duref Mudgins Invites Jack Hershey to Reminisce

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Now, Dear Jack, you have not once thanked me for creating this new venue for you to confound harrass and apoplect your detractors. How ungrateful of you! NOW do you understand how much I admire and revere you?
 
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While I was "modding" I must of banned a hundred of his aliases in just a few months. It was pretty funny. I'd ban, like, 5 aliases in one nite and he'd get all pissy and whiny and post some crybaby shit - "You mods will never stop me from posting here!" Sometimes I'd ban him after just one post and that would really get him upset! He's such a tard, he's the absolute joke of the moderator's section, where we referred to him as "IQ28" because he's just so fucking dumb.

But alas, I tired of the game as it became like shooting ducks in a barrel and wasn't a challenge anymore since he was too stupid to make it one, so I gave up modding and went back to being just a regular member. Now I just ignore him, as I always have, as everyone here does, much as one would wipe dog shit off the bottom of one's shoe after stepping in a heaping, steaming, stinking pile of IQ28.
 
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I guess I need to keep letting people know what sort of Troll we are dealing with in T28. Same old boring flame tactics. And sadly he never put up an argument to counter, just a little new age anti-science babble. He is one weird guy.

Not worth debating because he isn't rational. For anyone who might be interested in understanding Trader28 a few quotes might help.

"Jesus was a kabbalist, like every other jewish rabbi/essene of the time, he'd be horrified by christianity"

"The deification of Jesus (by a mad roman emperor) has taken divinity out of man, it is the greatest crime of organised religion to feed the lie that we are not divine, that god is something seperate, that we must feel guilty... it's a tragedy"

"The fact that you are attacking me reveals your insecurity and that you dont really understand probability... as for the pipe reference... it is so old and hokey I actually feel embarrassed for you" ... funny how t28 always feels he's being attacked?

"And once and for all if you allow emotions into the equation as you said you do then you are nothing but an amatuer, meditation and trading are acts of discipline, if you cant control your emotions then you are a perennial loser... but I guess someone needs to be on the other side of my contracts"

"I know everything about you, I knew the minute you told me you couldn't control your emotions while trading, and then set about proving it in this thread"

"You called down the thunder so it is a little late to piss and moan about the rain, trading is also about taking responsibility for ourselves and our actions, but if you must play the victim then also admit it about your trading so we can feel extra sorry for you"

"Thats a very eastern centric view of meditation, a western occultist would disagree with most of that even though the basic goal and path is the same, for instance morals are an illusion from a higher perspective. Much of the eastern tradition has come to the west polluted with exoteric rubbish and is certainly not what the true adepts would be practicing. The entire concept of transcendence smacks of escapism when it is obvious we incarnate for a definite physical purpose"

"There is exoteric Buddhism and then there are the Buddhist adepts of the inner school... milk for babes and strong meat for men"

"Quantum physics is in it's infancy and barely understood by it's own experts, esoteric lore is millenia ahead of science, for instance the knowledge that the universe is an expression of the absolute's own awareness is thousands of years old, but only in the past few decades have scientists been heard to claim that the universe begins to look like a giant thought"

"Science does a good enough job of misrepresenting itself without any help from us, the minute they can all actually come to a consensus on a theory it is superseded by another... dont look to science for ultimate truth... you'll just get another temporary theory"

"And of course it is in it's infancy, have they explained the nature of reality? do they even know what electricity or gravity is yet? todays theory is tomorrows flat earth!"

"I guess you missed the 122 page thread I started entitled simple profitable method that everyone keeps congratulating me on winners win... losers like to deflect from the reason they lost, like you did above" .... grandiose delusion?

"come back again anytime you want your arse handed to you again... and ps... those sheep are for wool... not for lovin "

and a few old gold quotes:

"They warned me over at trade2win not to come over here, nothing but bad jokes and bad traders... should have listened"

"I have never seen so many morons that couldn't answer a simple question... the bad jokes are obviously a defence to cover up the fact that you troglodytes simply dont have a clue"
 
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FA = first alpha? fundamental analysis
JV of NSF = joint venture of the National science foundation?
NFP = not for profit?
POA = power of attorney?

This brings up an interesting point. I know you use NLP, and I assume it's a filtering mechanism to catch and remove unwanted garbage from your net, but it's ridiculously hard (for me) to distill the point of most of your posts. While I do enjoy your writing, and much of it rings true on levels that many here don't understand, I can't help but wonder why you have made things so difficult. I am not dense. You must realize that there is a very large grey area of well-intentioned people trying to read, digest and understand your work who are never going to get it, right? Not the most effecient use of "pay it forward".

Thanks for answering.

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The five stages recently posted is what I am about.

"ubuntu" is an african word that stands for "I am, because we are" The coach of the Celtics also is of this persuasion.

This thread is typical od one that is not of my choosing nor orientation. I recognize that there is a swarm of misinformed detractors who have the need to vent and react to what I represent.

Because my life's experience has been as an advocate of process learning, I do recognize that to get people to think can be a challenge because they have chosen to have their mind's built in a context of content "teaching", which is doubly improperly invasive.

Just as there is no way to have trader666 understand "exits" as the consequence of excellent "entries"; there is little chance that a person will undertake process learning.

Here I have emphasized how two adjacent bars allow for a non inductive process to ensue. As a person works through the ATS formulations that are way below the human perception levels (relatively fast in terms of time), he can count on the structural strengths of his past drilling down to the detail levels that are requird to be comprehensive.

I have spent, now well over 25 years, examining others and how they think and trade. The 25 years before that I concentrated on markets and becoming an informed trader.

In 2007, we (the PhD's under spyder's leadership) we completed a syllabus. 2008 is devoted to other things including five support books I am doing as references for practioners. Here I only write runon copy to answer Q's (I don't post in the substantive threads, however) and to put out misconceptions caused by some of the remaining detractors.

What makes my writing poor to readers is it's out of the box algorithmic basis relative to the CW algoritms. This is further screwed up by the fact that I do not think in CW thought processes. The band aids of CW definitely outweigh the poor principles. Back to understanding me. There are about three time periods of digestion: 48 hours, two weeks and six months.

I have tried to state that the algorithm is comprehensive, validated and rigorous. Using binary algebra (Boolean algebra is simply foreign to traders and to programmers. Using it in a vector orientation is even more difficult.

In all of the pages of script in the public you will notice that all of itis found in the context of CW coding that surrounds it. Even when working with the Paris financial group on LINUX there was the underlying CW coding orientation.

When I write it is from the viewpoint of a system and the logic of the system was layed aside for almost 20 years until computer technology caught up with logic expatiation. There is no ego in my recitation of history as it unfolded. It is true that I have taken IQ's whose appraised results did not have flaws. But what is the ubderlying is that over 50 years I simply became an automatron based upon iterative refinement of an algorithm that came to be through very thorough and rational examination of a phenomena. Darvas at the same time drew the same intial conclusions. This followed the same paty begun by Dodd and Granville in parallel but not with conscious interconnections except the principles were in tact.

I find it very difficult to not just lay out all the logic (ET and the net doesn't have the capability to display it conversationally or symbolically). Recently a moderator expressed his lack of realization of this (Vikana).

I did take an alternative route, however, to get transference accomplished.

Now to handle the large grey area. Because I am a scientist, I recognize how "institutionalization of ideas takes place. I was for a year, designated as the NSF program of the year. In deep science and basic knowledge, this means that NSF was emphasizing beginning the institutionalizing of a concept to get it to become part of the fabric of science. Too late, but that is okay and the usual for the downside of scientific discovery.

In 1957, I realised that the main income stream of families is not from doing work. There is no relationship to work and wealth. today in 2008 we are way past losing track of practioners (we lost track around 1990 at five digit levels). I recognized from other "institutionalizing efforts" in the past that giving things away is the faster track to getting it to happen. We simply did design and gave it away for example.

I lucked out when the movie about "passing it forward" was done and shown.

As we see there are DF's out there everywhere. They are notpart of the grey area. The people available to make trading their mainstream of income is vast. It is a measles situation. It begins and it is reinforced locally. Wealthy practioners have eliminated national borders.

Transference is tricky since thee is such an urge to translate (see hypo for the DF route on that). But what s nice is that the parts of the algorithm can be merged into other trading activities and people are satisfied simply because of the success levels by even doing that.

So far no one has treid to comercialize it succesfully. There is a lot of bait and switch and when advertising begins, then legal remedies are affected.

I stepped away from being the spokeman and the leade of the operation is on point and he is much better than I ever was at connecting and tranference. Now I am simply culling 10's of thousands of pages down to five reference books.

Here you see today, I have taken another lap on making trader666 rich. He is a very very DF he tells us all by his words. But maybe he can code up using the attached sheet. I am attaching it one more time today.

If he plugs it into Qcharts whre unusual volume was created, then he can just sit there and get rich. He may have two problems: he may have to work and he may not have any capital.

So the big grey area can go to what is left of posts in ET. thre is no way to print threds in ET since all illustrations aren't part of the print out. People advertize here for so much a page to convert ET to Word.

the large grey area has the problem of the algorithm. It is based on certainty and not using probability which are both foreign to CW which stands for Conventional Wisdom.

So I am poor at conveying the algorithm since I am so different from those in the large grey area. I am not very good at conveying to people things at the place where they are. I left that place around 1945 or so. I regard reading "The Predictors" as a joke book just to speak about another group who could not understand me. I enjoyed Bergman's courses when he came to teach and I enjoyed doing his homework so to speak. Google Manhattan project.

i believe in two years we will have the books out to practitioners for a year and they will be working on a globally avaialble platform that will service a lot of the markets all over the world. I believe in the measles happening all over. I know it is going to be a really tough time in the financial industry for the next few years. This is just serendipity regarding making more money than would be common.

I am glad to say that the shift going on to the PE algorithm is greater thanany time in about 50 years. Of course, you are regognizing the potentialaudience and how important it is to advance the transfer without hitches or me beinga bottleneck. I am being debottlenecked as we speak through process learning going on; it is taking me out of the picture by just overunning the limitations. I am sure as more and more tranfer occurs the track records of these many many people will be discovered as the passforward occurs all over the world.
 
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...Semper Fi. Marines have to peform and they are trained to perform. Don Bright runs a 4 week boot camp. Capish??

Troops drill. They automatically respond to anything in their environment that threatens them. They are not free to exercise any option that they would previously choose....
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Oorah!!!
 
FYI the curve you are posting was a result of testing equities. It is screwed up for several reasons.

SCT is a trading algorithm for a futures index. There are about 25, worldwide that have been checked out.

Your posting an equity curve and associating it with a futures index is fairly far off base.

Moderators do not assess posts for quality in any way so it will remain here as many times as you post it.


Maybe the OP can go to work on getting a lot posts on this thread removed. It is about time to clean up this thread since I am posting in it.
 
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The five stages recently posted is what I am about.

"ubuntu" is an african word that stands for "I am, because we are" The coach of the Celtics also is of this persuasion.

This thread is typical od one that is not of my choosing nor orientation. I recognize that there is a swarm of misinformed detractors who have the need to vent and react to what I represent.

Because my life's experience has been as an advocate of process learning, I do recognize that to get people to think can be a challenge because they have chosen to have their mind's built in a context of content "teaching", which is doubly improperly invasive.
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What made you an advocate of process learning?

There are many issues with the medium here, I would imagine.
Just as there is no way to have trader666 understand "exits" as the consequence of excellent "entries"; there is little chance that a person will undertake process learning.

Here I have emphasized how two adjacent bars allow for a non inductive process to ensue. As a person works through the ATS formulations that are way below the human perception levels (relatively fast in terms of time), he can count on the structural strengths of his past drilling down to the detail levels that are requird to be comprehensive.

I have spent, now well over 25 years, examining others and how they think and trade. The 25 years before that I concentrated on markets and becoming an informed trader.

In 2007, we (the PhD's under spyder's leadership) we completed a syllabus. 2008 is devoted to other things including five support books I am doing as references for practioners. Here I only write runon copy to answer Q's (I don't post in the substantive threads, however) and to put out misconceptions caused by some of the remaining detractors.

What makes my writing poor to readers is it's out of the box algorithmic basis relative to the CW algoritms. This is further screwed up by the fact that I do not think in CW thought processes. The band aids of CW definitely outweigh the poor principles. Back to understanding me. There are about three time periods of digestion: 48 hours, two weeks and six months.
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I don't understand the last sentence of this paragraph. Could you please elaborate?
I have tried to state that the algorithm is comprehensive, validated and rigorous. Using binary algebra (Boolean algebra is simply foreign to traders and to programmers. Using it in a vector orientation is even more difficult.
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I'm a trader and a programmer (hack) and it's foreign to me. However, it doesn't seem like that difficult of a concept (either the data structure or the logic).
In all of the pages of script in the public you will notice that all of itis found in the context of CW coding that surrounds it. Even when working with the Paris financial group on LINUX there was the underlying CW coding orientation.

When I write it is from the viewpoint of a system and the logic of the system was layed aside for almost 20 years until computer technology caught up with logic expatiation. There is no ego in my recitation of history as it unfolded. It is true that I have taken IQ's whose appraised results did not have flaws. But what is the ubderlying is that over 50 years I simply became an automatron based upon iterative refinement of an algorithm that came to be through very thorough and rational examination of a phenomena. Darvas at the same time drew the same intial conclusions. This followed the same paty begun by Dodd and Granville in parallel but not with conscious interconnections except the principles were in tact.
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That's the same concept as iterative and incremental software development. Works well.
I find it very difficult to not just lay out all the logic (ET and the net doesn't have the capability to display it conversationally or symbolically). Recently a moderator expressed his lack of realization of this (Vikana).
More...
Could you write it out using binary algebra and vector algebra and post a scan of it on ET?
I did take an alternative route, however, to get transference accomplished.

Now to handle the large grey area. Because I am a scientist, I recognize how "institutionalization of ideas takes place. I was for a year, designated as the NSF program of the year. In deep science and basic knowledge, this means that NSF was emphasizing beginning the institutionalizing of a concept to get it to become part of the fabric of science. Too late, but that is okay and the usual for the downside of scientific discovery.

In 1957, I realised that the main income stream of families is not from doing work. There is no relationship to work and wealth. today in 2008 we are way past losing track of practioners (we lost track around 1990 at five digit levels). I recognized from other "institutionalizing efforts" in the past that giving things away is the faster track to getting it to happen. We simply did design and gave it away for example.

I lucked out when the movie about "passing it forward" was done and shown.

As we see there are DF's out there everywhere. They are notpart of the grey area. The people available to make trading their mainstream of income is vast. It is a measles situation. It begins and it is reinforced locally. Wealthy practioners have eliminated national borders.

Transference is tricky since thee is such an urge to translate (see hypo for the DF route on that). But what s nice is that the parts of the algorithm can be merged into other trading activities and people are satisfied simply because of the success levels by even doing that.
More...
Yes, this is easy to see.
So far no one has treid to comercialize it succesfully. There is a lot of bait and switch and when advertising begins, then legal remedies are affected.

I stepped away from being the spokeman and the leade of the operation is on point and he is much better than I ever was at connecting and tranference. Now I am simply culling 10's of thousands of pages down to five reference books.

Here you see today, I have taken another lap on making trader666 rich. He is a very very DF he tells us all by his words. But maybe he can code up using the attached sheet. I am attaching it one more time today.

If he plugs it into Qcharts whre unusual volume was created, then he can just sit there and get rich. He may have two problems: he may have to work and he may not have any capital.

So the big grey area can go to what is left of posts in ET. thre is no way to print threds in ET since all illustrations aren't part of the print out. People advertize here for so much a page to convert ET to Word.

the large grey area has the problem of the algorithm. It is based on certainty and not using probability which are both foreign to CW which stands for Conventional Wisdom.

So I am poor at conveying the algorithm since I am so different from those in the large grey area. I am not very good at conveying to people things at the place where they are. I left that place around 1945 or so. I regard reading "The Predictors" as a joke book just to speak about another group who could not understand me. I enjoyed Bergman's courses when he came to teach and I enjoyed doing his homework so to speak. Google Manhattan project.

i believe in two years we will have the books out to practitioners for a year and they will be working on a globally avaialble platform that will service a lot of the markets all over the world. I believe in the measles happening all over. I know it is going to be a really tough time in the financial industry for the next few years. This is just serendipity regarding making more money than would be common.

I am glad to say that the shift going on to the PE algorithm is greater thanany time in about 50 years. Of course, you are regognizing the potentialaudience and how important it is to advance the transfer without hitches or me beinga bottleneck. I am being debottlenecked as we speak through process learning going on; it is taking me out of the picture by just overunning the limitations. I am sure as more and more tranfer occurs the track records of these many many people will be discovered as the passforward occurs all over the world.
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If it's based on process learning couldn't software be designed to train the user by running specific drills over and over? I don't know much about process learning, but I'm sure there's a way to accomplish it quickly by doing the processes at a high frequency.

Thanks,

TNG
 
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The five stages recently posted is what I am about.

"ubuntu" is an african word that stands for "I am, because we are" The coach of the Celtics also is of this persuasion.

Because my life's experience has been as an advocate of process learning, I do recognize that to get people to think can be a challenge because they have chosen to have their mind's built in a context of content "teaching", which is doubly improperly invasive.

But what is the ubderlying is that over 50 years I simply became an automatron based upon iterative refinement of an algorithm that came to be through very thorough and rational examination of a phenomena.

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"I am" is really a singularity, and not a plurality. Oneness is the truth, whereas, multiplicity is a conceptual anti-truth. So, "I am because we are" is pretty much non-sense. Taken serioiusly, however, it can build an alternative world in the mind of "I am". "I think, therefore I am..." is closer to the truth. The concept of plurality is a thought of one thinker. That thought is expressed as what I sometimes call "this world". It is populated with thoughts which credit themselves with the ability to think. Whereas oneness is a known, plurality explores the unknown. Exploration of the unknown involves a learning process not native to the realm of knowledge where "I am" is at home.

There is no such thing as learning in the realm of knowledge where oneness is and remains reality. Learning is a process associated with an unreal realm which I will call consciousness. Consciousness allows a perciever to see what he wishes, regardless of truth. Consciousness allows the idea of multiplicity to appear real, making it "the truth" for the perciever. As a perciever wishes, he sees. As he sees, he "believes". As wishing continues, value-judgments alter what is seen, and "learning" proceeds. Learning the concept of plurality/multiplicity produces this world. It is problematic so there is another effort to appeal to more learning as a kind of salvation. This has been ruinous for Duref Mudgins which has split into 18 aliases in dealing with it. Likewise, all aliases in the world derive from a learing process tracing back to the "birth" of consciousness.

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