Dump Trump

TreeFrogTrader said:
So, what are the views from all the geniuses here in regard to whether Trump will run 3rd party if he is openly rejected by republicans early on?

Note, that I am not asking whether a third party can win or whether it hands the election over to the dems or any of that. We all know those issues and the blah, blah, blah that goes with them.

We are talking Trump here. Going gently into the night is not his strong point.

What sayeth thee?
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RINOs if they manage to scuttle Trump are not going to win. They do not have enough voters to back them. The handful of extreme liberal Never Trumper RINOs have lost elections left and right and never even come close to winning. Only Trump or De Santis are the viable candidates. Nobody else is acceptable. Any RINOs the likes of Mitt Romney or Jeb Bush will lose very badly, because Republicans will not vote for them. Trump probably, will not support any of these RINOs as well in fund raising or attending their rallies. They will look pretty stupid being wiped out and trashed in the elections. Just my 2 cents. I do not think Trump will go third party. He will just go, wash his hands and say, goodbye fools----you are all on your own. My sentiments exactly.
 
smallfil said:
RINOs if they manage to scuttle Trump are not going to win. They do not have enough voters to back them. The handful of extreme liberal Never Trumper RINOs have lost elections left and right and never even come close to winning. Only Trump or De Santis are the viable candidates. Nobody else is acceptable. Any RINOs the likes of Mitt Romney or Jeb Bush will lose very badly, because Republicans will not vote for them. Trump probably, will not support any of these RINOs as well in fund raising or attending their rallies. They will look pretty stupid being wiped out and trashed in the elections. Just my 2 cents. I do not think Trump will go third party. He will just go, wash his hands and say, goodbye fools----you are all on your own. My sentiments exactly.
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Yeh, the complicating thing for Trump is that DeSantis is not considered to be rino and he is genuinely liked by lots of republican. Whereas when he ran in 2016 that large field of clowns were made to be smacked around by Trump. If Trump loses in the polls/primary to a clown proving that the republicans are losers, then, yes, he will and should just walk away and tell them they are on their own. Where it gets dicey is when/if he acts like he cannot support any Republican candidate unless it is himself. I don't think he would go third party but I can see him playing that or hinting at scenarios that sound like that, as a way to keep his flag flying if he gets less traction in the polls than he expects.

Don't know. He entered the race so ungodly early there will be years of gyrations to deal with.
 
TreeFrogTrader said:
Yeh, the complicating thing for Trump is that DeSantis is not considered to be rino and he is genuinely liked by lots of republican. Whereas when he ran in 2016 that large field of clowns were made to be smacked around by Trump. If Trump loses in the polls/primary to a clown proving that the republicans are losers, then, yes, he will and should just walk away and tell them they are on their own. Where it gets dicey is when/if he acts like he cannot support any Republican candidate unless it is himself. I don't think he would go third party but I can see him playing that or hinting at scenarios that sound like that, as a way to keep his flag flying if he gets less traction in the polls than he expects.

Don't know. He entered the race so ungodly early there will be years of gyrations to deal with.
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The candidates planning to possibly take on Trump are starting to show up out of the woodwork. Note that most potential GOP presidential candidates will start presidential exploratory committees within the next six months and declare their candidacy. Time is actually short -- by November (2023) any GOP candidates need to have their organizations well in gear to meet the primary vote schedule (state-by-state) in early 2024.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1593219252190072833
 
TreeFrogTrader said:
Yeh, the complicating thing for Trump is that DeSantis is not considered to be rino and he is genuinely liked by lots of republican. Whereas when he ran in 2016 that large field of clowns were made to be smacked around by Trump. If Trump loses in the polls/primary to a clown proving that the republicans are losers, then, yes, he will and should just walk away and tell them they are on their own. Where it gets dicey is when/if he acts like he cannot support any Republican candidate unless it is himself. I don't think he would go third party but I can see him playing that or hinting at scenarios that sound like that, as a way to keep his flag flying if he gets less traction in the polls than he expects.

Don't know. He entered the race so ungodly early there will be years of gyrations to deal with.
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I think if De Santis wins, Trump will back him up. Any other RINO clown gets the nomination, he will not touch them with a ten foot pole as he should. Let them flounder and toss in the wind. To think Republicans actually, nominated RINO clowns John McCain and Mitt Romney should strike the fear in any Republican that it could happen yet, again.
 
smallfil said:
I think if De Santis wins, Trump will back him up. Any other RINO clown gets the nomination, he will not touch them with a ten foot pole as he should. Let them flounder and toss in the wind.
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That would be good. I don't ask for too much from him. He will have plenty of losers to beat up on and I will cheer him on. But he needs to show some grace somewhere to some. He might have issues with Pence, Asa Hutchinson, Tom Cotton, DeSantis, etc- people who might very well run but no republican wants to see them humiliated just for sport. Save that for Chris Cristie, Larry Hogan, etc.

One thing I have accepted though is that Trump needs to do whatever he needs to do and I am not running a counseling program for him or asking myself "why did he need to do this or that or only if he would stop doing this or that." Do what you gotta do. My vote is available and uncommitted.
 
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gwb-trading said:
Key Evangelical Figures Turn On Trump: 'He Used Us'
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/key-evangelical-figures-turn-on-trump-he-used-us/ar-AA14fSKb

Even the Christian Right will not support Trump anymore -- but it does beg the question of why they supported this amoral clown in the first place.
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One question christians will never ask because they are not honest with themselves; "How come we led ourselves down the garden path, if we did it here, when else have we done it, this can't be the first time?"

But no, christians are adamant, no question, they are arrogantly right in everything they believe.
 
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