Duke refutes Nizkor Argument on the Red Cross and the Holocaust

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Left, The cover of the International Red Cross Official Reports on the Holocaust. Revisionists point out that that the Red Cross, including a number of officials from the U.S., Britain, France, and Switzerland, inspected the German concentration camps (including Auschwitz) during the height of the holocaust. They interviewed thousands of prisoners and delivered thousands of packages to them. They were asked to investigate rumors of mass killings and gassings. After their investigation they reported back to the American government that they found no a trace of evidence of any mass killings, but they did say in their reports that they had found terrible loss of life from epidemics and lack of supplies caused by the war.

- Nizkor's response to the Red Cross documents. Essentially they call them duds because the Nazis would have 'dressed up' the place to make it look presentable. As well, the Nazis would have navigated the Red Cross officials only to those places in the camps they saw fit:

Quote from Nizkor:
Rumors of gas chambers could not be verified because the delegates were expressly forbidden from visiting the Auschwitz Krema, where the gas chambers and cremation facilities were. They were taken only to those parts of the huge complex which housed prisoners who were not to be exterminated. Some Allied POWs were held in Auschwitz, in reasonable conditions, but they knew about the gassings and mentioned them to the IRC delegate.

David Duke's recent refutation:


When they can't refute, they must turn to the lie. Obviously, if the Red Cross was forbidden any part of the camps, they would have mentioned that in their official reports when they reported in effect that they found no evidence of mass killings. In fact, Red Cross officials were not forbidden to go anywhere in the camps, no matter what coerced testimony from Germans after the war might be alleged. It is obvious that the Red Cross would have said, " We were told that there were mass killings there, but the Nazis would not let us inspect these areas." But the official reports show none of this, not even a whiff of this. Numerous International Red Cross inspection teams were completely satisfied that no exterminations were occurring as evidenced by their official records of their visits.


The basis of the Nizkor line of argument is completely flawed of course.

The International Red Cross could go anywhere they wanted, it was part of the Geneva accords, that's why they were allowed in the first place. No part of the camp was forbidden to them. Furthermore, if the Nizkor report is correct in saying that Jewish prisoners and Auschwitz told them about the gas chambers, why wouldn't the Red Cross ask to go and look at the these alleged places of extermination. there is nothing in the Red Cross report that says the Nazis would not let inspect parts of the camp, which if that would have been the case, of course they would have mentioned it in response to the inquiries of the U.S. government. Instead, they wrote that they investigated the matter and found no evidence of any exterminating facilities.

In fact, of course, the Red Cross distributed over a million packages to prisoners and interviewed thousands. You can't keep the killing of thousands of people a day secret in any prison or facility, especially in Concentration camps where people can move about far more freely than in a cell-block kind of prison. If the gassing were truly going on, prisoners would have told them about it and the Red Cross would have investigated and asked to see parts of the camp where the allegations centered.

In fact, there was no widespread belief among the prisoners that gassing were occurring. Even Elie Wiesel in his famous autobiography of his long stay at Auschwitz makes not one reference to gas chambers, which is now the one central symbol of the Holocaust Story. In fact, there were a number of competing stories about Nazi extermination, from electrical floors to death by steaming, to diesel engine gassing, all which cannot stand the text of time or any forensic analysis.

The overriding point is simply this.

The Red Cross did inspect the alleged death camps, including Auschwitz.

The Red Cross made the repeated inspections during the height of the alleged Holocaust.

The Red Cross could go anywhere they wanted in the camps.

The Red Cross specifically investigated the mass extermination rumors.

The Red Cross did interview thousands of prisoners.

The Red Cross in a formal letter to the U.S. Government in November 1944 in response to the earlier request to investigate the extermination allegations, said it found no evidence of any mass killings of Jews or anyone else.

In addition, what does common sense tell us.

If the Germans had an enormous, super-secret, mass extermination apparatus and program of killing millions of Jews in Auschwitz and the other concentration camps would they let the Red Cross in at all, or keep them out of the camps just like the Soviets did and the allies did at the end of World War II?

The fact of the matter is simple and undeniable.

There was a non-German, anti-Nazi international body that went inside the Nazi Concentration camps during the height of the alleged Holocaust. It included Americans, British, French, Swiss and many foreign nationals. They investigated found nothing of the Holocaust as alleged and formally reported that the allied governments.

No matter what sophistry the Jewish extremists use, this startling fact cannot be ignored or explained away.

This is an official Red Cross Document; after non-specific threats from jews and zionists - U.S. and the Red Cross were accused of both knowledge of and suppression of "The Holocaust" .

The Red Cross was ordered by jews to change/alter their eyewitness and fact based documentation of the Camps. At the same time, America was also accused of anti-semitism. Both entities gave in to the pressure.

Red Cross Evidence:

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Total dead [including Jews and all other prisoners]: 373,468

Even assuming that number was just all Jews: where did the 5,626,532 others go? Decide for yourself.....
 
Bundes kanzlerin Merkel demanded that the EU adopt their enlightened laws against Holocaust Denial, and the UN General Assembly passed a resolution against Holodenial sponsored by the U.S.

This means that independent research will be outlawed across Europe generally, and doubters like David Irving can be jailed as Thought criminals.

This is pure Stalinism, whether they think they are defending Democracy and Capitalism or whatever they call their orthodoxy.

There is no God but the Nazi Holocaust.

There is no other historical event that is mandated by law--although some would legislate the circa World War I Armenian-Turkish conflict to be either Genocide or Denial of same. This is, however, rather minor in the Holocaust firmament.

Also, this is not just in Europe, but the Zionist Lobby would gut the American Bill of Rights if they had their way. The USA sponsored a resolution in the UN, which passed in the General Assembly, condemning Holodenial.

The West wants to mandate views of history regarding WWII, the Holocaust, and the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

This is an immediate political move against Teheran, which has sponsored a Holocaust Conference that the Zionist Lobby did not control--and therefore does not approve of. The Zionist Lobby wants to go to war against Iran to liquidate another one of Israel's rivals--and this would have the happy result of putting U.S. military bases across the Iranian oil fields, something that the Global plutocratic elite can eagerly nod to.

And politically, this is bipartisan Hoaxsterism that will not end in 2008, even though Bush's handling of the Iraq occupation is questioned (but not the fraud that got us in there in the first place, with the complicity of Democrat lawmakers).

Note in this Yahoo article that participants at the Teheran Holocaust conference are described as criminals. They should be honest and call them Thoughtcriminals. And the canard that Ahmadinejad wants to wipe out Israel is repeated. This is because a casus belli against Iran is needed. Only Israel is allowed to have a nuclear deterent. Iran is not even allowed peaceful nuclear energy because then they would be less beholden to world oil markets for their own energy needs and could export more or less at their own discretion rather than Wall Street's.

Iran challenges Europe to hand over Holocaust 'proof'


TEHRAN (AFP) -
Tue Feb 6, 2007 - 8:18 AM ET

An Iranian government-sponsored body set up to probe the veracity of the Holocaust has challenged Europe to hand over documents about the mass slaughter of Jews in World War II.

Mohammad Ali Ramin, the head of the "World Holocaust Foundation" created after Iran's controversial Holocaust conference last year, said Austria, Germany and Poland in particular should supply documents.

"They should hand over the proof for the dossier on the organized massacre of Jews in Europe during World War II to the independent international fact-finding committee affiliated to this foundation," the IRNA state news agency quoted him as saying Tuesday.

President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad ordered the creation of the foundation after inviting a number of controversial revisionist Holocaust researchers to a conference in Tehran in December that caused an international outcry.

Ahmadinejad has repeatedly questioned the scale of the Holocaust, described the mass killing of six million Jews in World War II as a "myth" and also called for Israel to be "wiped from the map".

The foreign researchers invited to the conference -- some of whom have criminal records at home -- gave papers claiming the Holocaust never happened on the scale assumed by the vast majority of historians.

Mainstream historians specialising in the Third Reich counter there is ample documentary proof that around six million Jews were killed by the Nazis in World War II although some estimates put the figure slightly higher or lower.

The UN General Assembly last month unanimously approved a US-proposed resolution condemning denial of the Holocaust, in a move diplomats said was directly aimed at Iran's stance.

Meanwhile, leading reformist daily Etemad Melli published an editorial by an academic condemning the conference, the latest voice to be raised at home against the gathering.

"The Tehran Holocaust conference gave foreign media the chance to attack the Islamic republic, and several countries and also international figures like (former and present UN Secretary Generals) Kofi Annan and Ban Ki-moon reacted," said Mohammad Taghi Karoubi.

The conference caused Iran "international isolation over an issue that has nothing to do with our national interests and does nothing to help the oppressed Palestinian people," he added. [Emphases added.]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070206/wl_mideast_afp/iranjewsisrael_070206131801
 
I'll just go with the reports from the people that were imprisoned, I think they would be a good source of info. The rest of the stuff is filtered through the political process.
 
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