Dubai shock after debt standstill call

Quote from spinn:

very well said asiaprop

I second this. Their moves have been very cocky and agressive to they the least. However there are always the poor suckers who were not part of this. Not everybody in the UAE is rich.
 
Quote from asiaprop:

Those "oil terrorists" will go exactly where they are coming from, riding camels and horses in the desert. There are so many pointers that the basis for their money wasting life style is so flawed: Not a single investment they have ever touched has made a positive return,

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125602415681596055.html

Qatar's sovereign investment fund sold a £1.3 billion ($2.1 billion) stake in Barclays PLC, the second large share sale in recent months by Persian Gulf investors who bought into the bank last fall as it scrambled to raise capital at the height of the financial crisis.

The fund, Barclays's largest shareholder, sold 379.2 million shares in converting half of the warrants it received a year ago at an exercise price of 197.77 pence apiece, almost doubling its investment.

100% in less than a year is not bad, eh?

BTW, oil is in other places in the Gulf not Dubai.
 
lol, yes not bad, however, ever thought of the risk reward ratio of that trade at that time? Ever thought why Buffet never touched another bank but GS?

Barclays could as well have gone bankrupt along with the whole UK. Why the pound is still trading up there (especially vs the Euro) is a complete puzzle to me. Any investment at that time into the UK was a really bad trade. And on a relative basis, hundreds of stocks have more than doubled and that at a lot lower risk!!!

Re your second comment, do you care to educate us how the guys in Dubai came to their riches if not through oil? Catching fish off the coast? Counting sand?


Quote from genbie:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125602415681596055.html



100% in less than a year is not bad, eh?

BTW, oil is in other places in the Gulf not Dubai.
 
Real estate, construction, free trade and tourism. If you are searching for oil look elsewhere in the Gulf. Not Dubai.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Dubai

Although Dubai's economy was built on the back of the oil industry, revenue from petroleum and natural gas currently account for less than 6% of the emirate's gross domestic product.

BTW, the sp of Barclays more than doubled since last November.
 
Dubai made all their cash from Oil, the trouble is it's almost run out. I think they've got another 20 years left of low-grade production.

What they were trying to do was build a new city/country and diversify. Trouble is Arabs haven't got a clue how to manage money (or a company) and so overspend on gaudy materials and the like.

Plus, they'll always overpay unless you're a poor dark skinned labourer and then you'll be a low-paid slave, literally.
 
Quote from AK100:

Dubai made all their cash from Oil, the trouble is it's almost run out. I think they've got another 20 years left of low-grade production.

What they were trying to do was build a new city/country and diversify. Trouble is Arabs haven't got a clue how to manage money (or a company) and so overspend on gaudy materials and the like.

Plus, they'll always overpay unless you're a poor dark skinned labourer and then you'll be a low-paid slave, literally.

dubai has no oil, fucking read a little bit before you post
 
Barclay's Bank, Nov. 4 recommending selling the CDS. You can't make this stuff up:

On that basis, we recommend a long position in Dubai sovereign credit and see today’s negative price actions as an opportunity to buy. While the newly issued sukuk is our preferred instrument, we also feel comfortable in a recommendation to sell 5y CDS outright or against the CDX EM Index in a relative value trade.
http://ftalphaville.ft.com/blog/2009/11/26/85521/barclays-capital-changes-its-view-on-dubai/
 
buddy again you are missing the boat here. Nobody is gonna lend you money to construct this nonsense unless you have something to start with. Everyone who is considered wealthy in Dubai was/ is intricately connected to the oil business.

Quote from genbie:

Real estate, construction, free trade and tourism. If you are searching for oil look elsewhere in the Gulf. Not Dubai.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Dubai



BTW, the sp of Barclays more than doubled since last November.
 
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