Don't you just love the French?

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"The French media has been quick to dismiss the book's claims, despite the fact that Mr Meyssan is president of the Voltaire Network, a respected independent thinktank whose left-leaning research projects have until now been considered models of reasonableness and objectivity. "

LOL, so much for left wing french think tanks. And this crackpot was the PRESIDENT of it. They can't just kick him out and pretend that it didn't happen, people will remember this. The funny thing is that this guy is supposed to be a left wing intellectual, but he is going to be a rich capitalist pig very soon, unless he got a crummy deal. Getting rich from telling people what they want to hear. I suppose he is good at that since that is what most non-technical think tanks do anyway.
 
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Ah, this is an interesting point. You claim to know the back streets of Monaco. You explain how it would be virtually impossible for me to have been there and not remember how to get to the heliport. Yet now you say that you have not "claimed" to have been there. So.....what is the story? Are you a travel agent that studies city maps but never leaves your cave? Are you a meteorologist who has cause to doubt that the leaves fall from the trees on the Riviera in the winter?

You are right. You never claimed to actually have done anything. You only claim to be able to "prove" that I have not done whatever I say I have. So you got me. I cannot refute your claims. You are technically correct. How obtuse of me to assume you were speaking from experience. You somehow knew some "secret" about the Aspen Police Department. Yet you were never there. Or never claimed to be.

You explained how it was not possible for me to have skied the Vallee Blanc, and described the treacherous crevasses and dangerous conditions, yet again, you never claimed to have first hand knowledge.

You have never asked Greg Allman if he knew me or what our friendship involved. But nonetheless, somehow you knew. Amazing!

You somehow knew I could not have been in SE Asia in 1970, but never divulged the "sources" of your knowledge.

You have expressed doubt that my son is my son.

You told me that you did not believe that an old girlfriend became a famous actress. Again, based on what? And was this "bragging"? No, I said she was a secretary for a fire extinguisher company when we went out. Not famous by any means. Hell, she was a Texas "hick" in NYC who didn't even know that you don't hitchhike in manhattan when I first met her. Name dropping? Never mentioned her name. And if I did, what purpose would it serve? She is not the same person at 53 that she was at 19, believe me. (too bad sorta).

I said I traded millions of dollars. I never claimed to have made millions of dollars. So when I expressed the fact that my stepdaughters college tuition at Northwestern is very expensive, you jumped on me for not being rich enough to not care. Trading other peoples money for a small percentage doesn't make me rich. Never said it did. But somehow you managed to make the whole thing into some weird self-contradictory condition. Which it most certainly was not. But of course facts and reality meant nothing to you. Just the joy of trying to "prove" that I am a "teller of tales". Sad that you cannot have a life of your own. I know some people live their lives vicariously. But what you do? It defies description. Sort of the Bizarro world version of living vicariously.

You have told me that my brother in law is not my brother in law. (he is coming down next week...maybe I can get him on here and you two can exchange pleasantries).

You asked for photographic "proof" and I got, in return, abusive doctoring of my picture on the Chamonix ski pass.

I said I went to the University of Miami (hardly a boast!). Yet because I (apparently mistakenly) thought that Chuck Foreman was the first black football player there, you claimed with certainty that I could not have gone to school there since I was in error about such an important issue. I guess if I was trying to impress you with my undergraduate education, I should have opted for Harvard where the football program was (somewhat) less high profile. But no, I lied about Miami, because it was such a fine institution of higher learning. And I knew it would impress everyone here that I was at such a highly acclaimed center of academia. Or maybe because their football team was so great then (it wasn't).

Look pal, there is nothing you can say or do to change who I am or what my life has been about. You said that I was playing a "gypsie violin" or some such expression implying I was looking for sympathy when I got beat out of some money. But of course, if you read the thread, never did I come close to saying anything that would lead any normal person to believe I was seeking "sympathy". But of course, as is your custom, it was just natural for you to assume the worst. Where was your diligent sleuthing ability then? Don't tell me you lapsed into laziness!!!

I have told you that I was widowed quite young. If I wanted "sympathy" I would have played that card. But if you have been paying attention, I never went down that road. Quite the contrary. And believe me, going through watching your wife die of cancer and seeing the chemotherapy being worse than the disease warrants sympathy. I hope you never have to experience anything like it. But these words, as I type them are the very first mention I have made of that episode other than in casual passing. And I am not comfortable airing it out now. But it is part of my life, and it remains with me. Unlike the business beating I took with the crooks I worked for in Monaco. (the place, according to you I was never at). That is just a footnote in my life that had no lasting effect. The whole thread was about risk tolerance and what mentality traders had relative to the rest of the population regarding risk. But of course, you made it into what it was not. Once again, you should be very proud of yourself.

If I bragged about anything on these boards, it was about the fact that I am damn proud of my re-marriage and of who I am lucky enough to be married to. So yeah, I will "brag" about that. I know I lucked out. A great wife and a great step- mother. So indulge me for bragging about that. If I ever didn't deserve anything, it is her. And so I will boast and brag and fawn over her. And you know what? It makes me feel good.

Tell me what makes you feel good.

I have been pretty damned forthcoming with you. And I have tried to contribute to the trading threads here at ET. What have you contributed of any benefit to anyone here at any time?

You have asked a million questions and shadowed and harassed me. I asked you ONE question....where do you live....and you never responded. And the funny thing is, like all of us here, I don't care where you live. I just find it interesting that you pry into other peoples lives but don't say anything about your own. So when I use the tired old expression "get a life", in your case it seems to have real meaning. For obviously you don't have one. Or if you do, you must be quite ashamed of it. Because somehow you just refuse to share with anyone anything about your so called life. No one knows a thing about you. Very cool. The mysterious stranger. Which would fly if you weren't so damned nosey, nasty and essentially worthless. There are plenty of ET members who don't contribute. They "lurk" which is fine. There are plenty who post continuously and say very little. Which is fine. Some of us get bored and just post away. But harmlessly. There are plenty who add humor. Or ask thought provoking questions. Or give provocative opinions on everything from day to day minutia to things they feel strongly about like politics or religion. But you...you add nothing in any way at all. No humor. No trading insights. Not anything but dissent and negativity.

So you have outsmarted me. Very good. It has served a great purpose. You have made the world a better place just by being a part of it.

Happy hunting Max!
Peace,
:)rs7

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Ah, I stand corrected. You have added a tremendous degree of humor. Boy, that's a good one. I hope gordon gekko sees it so he can give us a big "LOL". I gotta hand it to you, that is truly hilarious stuff!!!! Way to go. I retract everything I said. You really cracked me up with that one. How did you think of that? Was it something you have been saving for the right time? Or was it a genius stroke of impromptu wit?
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Are you sure you only got 30 wpm on that typing test?
 
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Are you sure you only got 30 wpm on that typing test?
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I must have been quite impaired. However Max, you bring out the very best in me. I probably speak for us all when I say that.

Peace and good hunting,
:)rs7
 
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Are you sure you only got 30 wpm on that typing test?
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not only 30 wpm but somehow more interesting to read when he'd done it :D

more power to you seven of rs
 
Rs7,

you see you are not serious. You took one thing CNN and you develop from it all your outdated ideology... Nobody in the whole world believes in that and in order to support your brothers you are trying to tell us that Israel has the right to kill palestinians.

Come on man. I hope you don't believe in that.

The facts for every Israeli that dies 3 or 4 palestinians are killed by the terrorist state of Israel
the only state that violated all the UN resolutions and the bigger number is guess who????? Israel
the country that is stealing the land of palestinian is Israel.

So basically give me one real argument why is this injustice accepted instead of talking about disarming the arab states. You are probably joking. The Arab states are already disarmed. and the palestinian arte certainly the most disarmed people on planet earth.

One last thing are you kidding when you say How many civilians were INTENTIONALLY murdered by Israeli soldiers or citizens?
Are you serious man. all the palestinian killed the houses destroyed the Land occupied were done willingly and this is worse than terrorism.

Terrorism is the result of that oppression and colonization and is not done intentionally but because of despair. Whereas the bombarding of houses killings of children are done intentionally.

A palestinian terrorist is not doing it in the name of Arafat or the state of Israel whereas all the killings perpetrated by Israelis are made by the State of Israel. Even journalists are shot at intentionally in Israel. The BBC journalist, the french journalist and The numerous arab journalist.

I even saw a documentary with an Israeli shot at because the Israeli believed he was an arab journalist.
 
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Rs7,

you see you are not serious. You took one thing CNN and you develop from it all your outdated ideology... Nobody in the whole world believes in that and in order to support your brothers you are trying to tell us that Israel has the right to kill palestinians.

Come on man. I hope you don't believe in that.

The facts for every Israeli that dies 3 or 4 palestinians are killed by the terrorist state of Israel
the only state that violated all the UN resolutions and the bigger number is guess who????? Israel
the country that is stealing the land of palestinian is Israel.

So basically give me one real argument why is this unjustice accepted instead of talking about disarming the arab states. You are probably joking. The Arab states are already disarmed. and the palestinian arte certainly the most disarmed people on planet earth.

One last thing are you kidding when you say How many civilians were INTENTIONALLY murdered by Israeli soldiers or citizens?
Are you serious man. all the palestinian killed the houses destroyed the mand occupied were done willingly and this is worse than terrorism.

Terrorism is the result of that oppression and colonisation and is not done intentionaly but because of despair. Whereas the bombarding of houses killings of children are done intentionaly.

A palestinian terrorist is not doing it in the name of Arafat or the state of Israel whereas all the killings perpetrated by Israelis are made by the State of Israel. Even journalists are shot at intentionaly in Israel. The BBC journalist, the french journalist and The numerous arab jorunalist.

I even saw a documentary with an Israeli shot at because the Israeli belived he was an arab journalist.
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Groups of people who strap suicide bombs to their teenage children always get my sympathy vote.
 
They don't have my vote ...
But if you were a palestinian and your house bombarded and father or sister killed you won't be that ironic.

This is a drama on both sides . and I am sorry also for the Isaelis even if I believe that they are the aggressors not the palestinians. They came and took a land that never belonged to them and not the contrary.

I don't think that the indians and white european that colonised america became great friends overnight. It took time. Same applies to Palestinian and Israelis.

 
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They don't have my vote ...
But if you were a palestinian and your house bombarded and father or sister killed you won't be that ironic.

This is a drama on both sides . and I am sorry also for the Isaelis even if I believe that they are the aggressors not the palestinians. They came and took a land that never belonged to them and not the contrary.

I don't think that the indians and white european that colonised america became great friends overnight. It took time. Same applies to Palestinian and Israelis.

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You can rationalize any behavior, a function of the human mind.

People rationalize the teenage suicide bombers. People rationalize the suicide pilots who flew planes into buildings. People rationalized the Kamakazi bombers during WWII who were sympathizers of the Japanese.

I always get a kick out of people who say,

"well.....yes, that is wrong....but....yada yada yada."

The wrong act cannot be rationalized away so easily.

Those who have a bias politically, in the markets, or personally will never be able to see a situation from the objective evidence to a reasonable conclusion. They have already come to a conclusion long ago, and will always take some fact to support that conclusion and deny other facts if it doesn't support their case. The lack of objectvity and bias in what you say in this Forum is so obivous that it destroys any credibility you might have. Shame actually.

As one who has no vested interest in the situation, I usually see that both sides are in the wrong.

Very few cases show truly innocent people striving for freedom in a proper way.

Martin Luther King, Ghandi, are a couple who made their cause known in a proper way....and paid for it with their own lives....not the lives of their children, or their soldiers.

They deserve respect, others are just politicians on different lines of the sand who are hardly "freedom fighters."
 
in my book both israel and the palestinians are guilty of massive terrorism, trying to allocate greater or lesser guilt to either side after decades of bloody conflict is an exercise in futility, but also an unnecessary exercise if the forward looking objective is a mutual future based on negotiated co-existence.

the prerequisite would obviously be the mutually apparently highly challenging task of gaining the insight that both sides are there for keeps, neither will disappear off the face of this earth, and that all they are achieving with their mutual terror and revenge tactics is a life of constant fear, violence and death.

for the people, that is, not for the crazed leaderships apparently subscribing to the unsound siren call of an eye for an eye, thereby acerbating the problem as opposed to being agents for improving the lots of their respective peoples.

israel and the palestinians are caught in a decades long midst of a vicious cycle of horrific violence because no one has the courage to seek a solution to the causes, as opposed to the symptoms, of the underlying problem, and accept that constant terror and counter-terror hasn't achieved a single improvement for either side in decades.

their only achievement is living proof of the idea that violence begets nothing but violence.

at the cost of solving any problems.

northern ireland, anyone?

getting out of the rut they are in certainly won't be easy, but then what is, but that's no excuse for indefinitely prolonging an insane status quo.
 
It is good to talk about Gandhi and Luther King but I don't think that they would have accepted the behavior of Israel.
I am not trying to rationalise but ask people to be measured when asserting things. One cannot say look at the suicide bombers and forget all the context in which suicide bombing happens.

Do you think that if the palestinian did not react they will still be alive??? I doubt it. Do you think that if nobody reacted in the planet humanitarian associations, amnesty .. there will still be a palestine state. I doubt it.

Nothing justifies suicide bombing but also nothing justifies the terrorist behavior of Israel. Israel is the single state that violated the most numerous UN resolutions and all of them. If instead of Israel you had Iraq, it's certainly long time ago that it would have been erased from the surface of planet earth.

Peace anyway
 
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