Don't upgrade to TWS 860 yet.

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I have found that I can avoid almost all of the upgrading problems that other IB customers groan about. I do it by never upgrading to a particular release until that release has been free of public complaints for about a month. I will also repeat my previous advice that you should never leapfrog from one version to a newer version which does not immediately follow the older version. Upgrade in sequence, from one version to the next, and then to the next, in sequence, without any gaps. Gaps in your upgrade history expose you to a higher probability of encountering problems. This is because each version is much more likely to be compatible with the previous version, than with versions several numbers behind. The larger the gap you leapfrog, the more versions you skip when leapfrogging, and the more likely you are to encounter a bug.

I would also suggest, as a matter of courtesy and good customer relations, that IB respond to each and every polite suggestion offered on ET, so that people won't feel ignored, and will have an opportunity to understand that they won't ignored and that a decision was carefully made either to accept or to reject the suggestion.
 
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We have implemented quite a list of improvements based on customers' feedback. Some requests are more easily addressed than others; perhaps that is the reason why what you believe to be "useful ideas" did not get implemented while what you believe to "useless and dangerous" features did.

Further, nothing gets "blatantly ignored" as you suggest. We have selected many of the suggested improvements for implementation, but other priorities do not allow us to complete them as quickly as we would like.

ibsoft, as far as i can see, since i follow and post frequently in the ib thread, practically none of the suggestions have been implemented so far. u say there are priorities but how can that late alert be a priority since nobody really asked for it and neither likes it as it turned out to be annoyin' and potentially dangerous. same for the blurred booktrader when disabled, now gone fortunately, and many other features u implemented that had to be removed in a falsh due to complaints.
i am lookin fww for example to see better charts; i.e thicker candles, as i and many others suggested. same for other useful features like pnl chartin' and the ability to set up and change complex orders type [brackets] configuration directly on booktrader, many suggested it. almost 1yr has passed so far and nothin' has been done yet: i just really hope u are workin' on it.
dont get me wrong here, am not bashin' u, this is my impression and i just tell u straight how i see it.
 
I have been with IB for a few years and always advised others to wait a while to upgrade. But like an idiot i upgraded on sunday night. Could not log in, IB was no help, and unfortunately all my pages and symbols have been wiped out. Still waiting for IB to improve Booktrader into a traders tool !
 
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ibsoft, as far as i can see, since i follow and post frequently in the ib thread, practically none of the suggestions have been implemented so far. u say there are priorities but how can that late alert be a priority since nobody really asked for it and neither likes it as it turned out to be annoyin' and potentially dangerous. same for the blurred booktrader when disabled, now gone fortunately, and many other features u implemented that had to be removed in a falsh due to complaints.
i am lookin fww for example to see better charts; i.e thicker candles, as i and many others suggested. same for other useful features like pnl chartin' and the ability to set up and change complex orders type [brackets] configuration directly on booktrader, many suggested it. almost 1yr has passed so far and nothin' has been done yet: i just really hope u are workin' on it.
dont get me wrong here, am not bashin' u, this is my impression and i just tell u straight how i see it.

Truth be told, many of those suggestions are either already implemented to some degree in third party API software or are just too specialized to be worthwhile to the majority of traders. If IB implemented every single suggestion, the program would become as large as an operating system. The number of bugs would probably increase dramatically. And many of the sugesstions are geared more towards personal convience as oppossed to critical functionality.

Most other platforms do not even come close to what IB is offering. Naturally because no broker offers the range of tradable products IB offers.

Your suggestions are a wish list. They shouldn't be thought of as anything but.
 
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IBSOFT="You are not required to use the latest releases. All you need to do is to install a stand-alone version and then how frequently you update is mostly your choice. I only say mostly because roughly once a year you can expect us to force an upgrade."


Now thats great customer service. We didn't make you do it, it's your fault for upgrading. Why anyone continues to use IB is beyond me. :confused:

Well, the attitude of the poster which IB responded to was a bit harsh and offbase. IB is just reminding the person that there is an alternative and the upgrade is not only NOT enforced, but not required as the previous version(s) work just fine.

Imagine if IB took down the previous versions every time they had an upgrade avail? I've been with a few brokers who did. REFCO namely. That happened twice and I couldn't relaibly trade for two weeks until the problem was solved. With IB, I never have to worry about that. I can always revert to whatever release (less than a year old) I feel is most robust and stable and still have all the functionality I'm accustomed to.

So yeah, having been around the block a few times, I'd say the customer service and technology is great. Every where you go there is a compromise to be made. I ffind that with IB, I'm making the least.
 
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I have been with IB for a few years and always advised others to wait a while to upgrade. But like an idiot i upgraded on sunday night. Could not log in, IB was no help, and unfortunately all my pages and symbols have been wiped out. Still waiting for IB to improve Booktrader into a traders tool !

taodr

All your pages and symbols are in a file stored on your computer in the c:/jts directory. Try going to Files on TWS and selecting Restore Settings.
 
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Truth be told, many of those suggestions are either already implemented to some degree in third party API software or are just too specialized to be worthwhile to the majority of traders. If IB implemented every single suggestion, the program would become as large as an operating system. The number of bugs would probably increase dramatically. And many of the sugesstions are geared more towards personal convience as oppossed to critical functionality.

Most other platforms do not even come close to what IB is offering. Naturally because no broker offers the range of tradable products IB offers.

Your suggestions are a wish list. They shouldn't be thought of as anything but.


the suggestions i referred to in my post are not just on my wish list, they are the most popular ones pushed by many eters usin' ib. the majority of traders want 'em and asked to be implemented numerous times. the fact they are available on third party applets doesnt make a a case for doin' nothin'.
 
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the suggestions i referred to in my post are not just on my wish list, they are the most popular ones pushed by many eters usin' ib.

Yeah, I read them and would like to see some of them myself.

the majority of traders want 'em and asked to be implemented numerous times.

Yes, but the majority of traders on ET does not equal the majority of traders with IB. ET's IB clients (the one's who post in the IB sugg & improv thread) represent less than 1% of IB's total accounts.

the fact they are available on third party applets doesnt make a a case for doin' nothin'.

In a way, it does. Not like one can say it doesn't exist. I just think that the "boo-hooing" that IB is not jumping to a minorities collective "snap!" is a bit outlandish. There's a lot of considerations that go into adding new features. Bandwidth, program size relative to average customer hardware setups, intergration with IB's servers, functionality, average customer trading patterns, etc.
 
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taodr

All your pages and symbols are in a file stored on your computer in the c:/jts directory. Try going to Files on TWS and selecting Restore Settings.


NO NO NO, they were wiped out.
 
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