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“The new submarine is 67 meters long with a beam of 6.6 meters, and has a dive displacement in the 3,000-tonne range,” Yonhap’s source in Seoul said.
“According to the analysis of satellite imagery revealed by 38 North (US-based monitoring entity), a ground test facility for the SLBM (Submarine launched ballistics missile) launch has been up and running at the Sinpo shipyard,” another source said.
However outdated these subs might appear today, their three ballistic missiles could hit targets at a range of up to 1,500 kilometers, albeit with low accuracy. Some versions of the ballistic missiles used on them could be launched from underwater. By purchasing old Soviet subs, Pyongyang must have saved years of research in submarine missile launch technology.
For Pyongyang this could be an ideal naval component of their nuclear forces. North Korea’s neighbors - namely South Korea, Japan and China – would need to take the existence of such sub into consideration.
In September, South Korean Joint Chiefs of Staff maintained that “there is no intelligence yet that North Korea has an SLBM in operation. But the possibility of a North Korean submarine equipped with an SLBM has been detected recently,” the South Korean military said in an official document, Yonhap reported.
https://www.rt.com/news/201603-north-korea-missile-submarine/
“The new submarine is 67 meters long with a beam of 6.6 meters, and has a dive displacement in the 3,000-tonne range,” Yonhap’s source in Seoul said.
“According to the analysis of satellite imagery revealed by 38 North (US-based monitoring entity), a ground test facility for the SLBM (Submarine launched ballistics missile) launch has been up and running at the Sinpo shipyard,” another source said.
However outdated these subs might appear today, their three ballistic missiles could hit targets at a range of up to 1,500 kilometers, albeit with low accuracy. Some versions of the ballistic missiles used on them could be launched from underwater. By purchasing old Soviet subs, Pyongyang must have saved years of research in submarine missile launch technology.
For Pyongyang this could be an ideal naval component of their nuclear forces. North Korea’s neighbors - namely South Korea, Japan and China – would need to take the existence of such sub into consideration.
In September, South Korean Joint Chiefs of Staff maintained that “there is no intelligence yet that North Korea has an SLBM in operation. But the possibility of a North Korean submarine equipped with an SLBM has been detected recently,” the South Korean military said in an official document, Yonhap reported.
https://www.rt.com/news/201603-north-korea-missile-submarine/
Regarding ICBM's From 2011... Obamas own SecDef....
NOTHING WAS DONE TONY!!!!!
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Gates: North Korea could have long-range missile within 5 years
By Larry Shaughnessy, CNN National Security Producer
U.S. Secretary of Defense Robert Gates walks past a Chinese honor guard during his visit to Beijing on Tuesday.
STORY HIGHLIGHTS
"I think that North Korea will have developed an intercontinental ballistic missile within that time frame," Gates told reporters during a visit to China. But he said he has doubts that the North Koreans will be able to field many ICBMs. "I believe they will have a very limited capability," he said.
A spokesman for the Defense Intelligence Agency later supported Gates' remarks, saying, "North Korea's two recent attempts at 'space launches' indicate a continued trend toward development of ICBM capabilities. This trend of development, in addition to North Korea's stated goal of developing a nuclear warhead, supports the Secretary of Defense's recent statement regarding potential threats from North Korea."
If North Korea acts with urgency, it could have ICBMs in five years, said John Pike, founder of GlobalSecurity.org, a military analysis group.
NOTHING WAS DONE TONY!!!!!
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Gates: North Korea could have long-range missile within 5 years
By Larry Shaughnessy, CNN National Security Producer
U.S. Secretary of Defense Robert Gates walks past a Chinese honor guard during his visit to Beijing on Tuesday.
STORY HIGHLIGHTS
- "I don't think it's an immediate threat," the defense secretary tells reporters
- "But on the other hand, I don't think it's a five-year threat," he adds
- He warns that North Korea is likely to have an ICBM within five years
"I think that North Korea will have developed an intercontinental ballistic missile within that time frame," Gates told reporters during a visit to China. But he said he has doubts that the North Koreans will be able to field many ICBMs. "I believe they will have a very limited capability," he said.
A spokesman for the Defense Intelligence Agency later supported Gates' remarks, saying, "North Korea's two recent attempts at 'space launches' indicate a continued trend toward development of ICBM capabilities. This trend of development, in addition to North Korea's stated goal of developing a nuclear warhead, supports the Secretary of Defense's recent statement regarding potential threats from North Korea."
If North Korea acts with urgency, it could have ICBMs in five years, said John Pike, founder of GlobalSecurity.org, a military analysis group.
So they just got the subs(old decommissioned Russian subs) in Nov 2014,Obamas final year, and are actually doing the work the now.Got it.
Or 1993,and are doing the work now under Trump.
Ten of them were allegedly sold to North Korea in 1993.
Tony, if you want to debate, lets do it like adults, not teenage girls, and look at the facts.
Even now, the SLBM's are not really considered a threat to N America as our ASW capabilities will detect any sub they can put in the water. We're pretty damn good at that game thanks to 50 years of cat and mouse with Russia.
Obama's own SecDef warned about ICBM's in 2011 and they sat there and watched them build launch facilities while intelligence reports strongly suggested assembly was happening in their underground facilities. Trump inherited an ICBM equipped and an SLBM equiped N Korea the day he took office.
What actually seems to have happened with the sudden leap in engine tech is Russia gave them R250 type engines in 2016.
So you need a surge at the southern border, destabilise central America by pulling back. You need a vaguely credible threat to solve with NK, put a little shine on the apple, have your buddy Putie help you out.
VZ can't see this as he is afraid of me exposing his BS.
So you need a surge at the southern border, destabilise central America by pulling back. You need a vaguely credible threat to solve with NK, put a little shine on the apple, have your buddy Putie help you out.
VZ can't see this as he is afraid of me exposing his BS.
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2016 is also the year im seeing that they really got started on The ICBMs.Im going look more into it today.
Regarding ICBM's From 2011... Obamas own SecDef....
NOTHING WAS DONE TONY!!!!!
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Gates: North Korea could have long-range missile within 5 years
By Larry Shaughnessy, CNN National Security Producer
U.S. Secretary of Defense Robert Gates walks past a Chinese honor guard during his visit to Beijing on Tuesday.
STORY HIGHLIGHTS
(CNN) -- Secretary of Defense Robert Gates said Tuesday that North Korea is becoming a direct threat to the United States, asserting that the rogue Communist regime is within five years of developing intercontinental ballistic missiles.
- "I don't think it's an immediate threat," the defense secretary tells reporters
- "But on the other hand, I don't think it's a five-year threat," he adds
- He warns that North Korea is likely to have an ICBM within five years
"I think that North Korea will have developed an intercontinental ballistic missile within that time frame," Gates told reporters during a visit to China. But he said he has doubts that the North Koreans will be able to field many ICBMs. "I believe they will have a very limited capability," he said.
A spokesman for the Defense Intelligence Agency later supported Gates' remarks, saying, "North Korea's two recent attempts at 'space launches' indicate a continued trend toward development of ICBM capabilities. This trend of development, in addition to North Korea's stated goal of developing a nuclear warhead, supports the Secretary of Defense's recent statement regarding potential threats from North Korea."
If North Korea acts with urgency, it could have ICBMs in five years, said John Pike, founder of GlobalSecurity.org, a military analysis group.
It looks thier ICBMS are from Russian engines,which they did not get until 2016
Yeah. Kim woke up one morning in 2016 and said "I'm going to build an ICBM capable of hitting California". So he rounded up a few engineers and said have at it. Made a call to Moscow. One year later they were testing it.
Just like that.
Of course Iran in 2019 still doesn't have them, even though they have been trying for decades with unlimited wealth and pretty much unlimited trade with the West albeit slightly gray-market. I guess the Ayatollah's engineers aren't quite as bright.
From the Brookings Institute last March:
This is the introduction and executive summary of a new Brookings report—to be released on March 28—on addressing the Iranian missile challenge.
For decades, the United States has sought to constrain Iran’s missile program, both because it poses a conventional military threat to regional stability and because it can provide a delivery capability for nuclear weapons should Iran acquire them. But despite the efforts of the United States and others to impede Iranian procurement of missile-related materials, equipment, and technology and a succession of U.N. Security Council (UNSC) restrictions imposed largely to prevent Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons delivery systems, Iran has managed to acquire the largest and most diverse missile force in the Middle East.
The Iranian missile threat
Relying initially on missiles, components, and technology purchased mainly from North Korea and China, but increasingly making advances through indigenous efforts, Iran maintains a force of hundreds of liquid- and solid-propellant short- and medium-range ballistic missiles (SRBMs and MRBMs), now being augmented by land-attack cruise missiles. Although claiming to limit itself to ballistic missiles with a 2000 km range by order of the supreme leader and not yet launching ballistic missiles above that range, Iran pursues at least four paths that it could use to develop intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBMs) capable of reaching the United States, including the development of space-launch vehicles (SLVs) based on technologies directly applicable to long-range ballistic missiles. While placing priority on indigenous development, Iran remains dependent on importing key components and materials. It is working on more accurate guidance systems to improve the military utility of its missiles and has fielded road-mobile missile launchers to promote their survivability against attack.
The Iranians see their missile force as an integral and indispensable part of their national defense strategy, fulfilling key strike roles traditionally taken by manned aircraft, but beyond the capabilities of an Iranian air force hobbled by many years of sanctions. The missile program serves key Iranian goals: deterring attacks against Iran, providing warfighting capabilities if deterrence fails or Iran decides to initiate hostilities, supporting military capabilities of regional proxies such as Hezbollah and the Houthis, enhancing national pride and regional influence, and providing a nuclear delivery hedge if Iran decides to acquire nuclear weapons. The use of Iranian ballistic missiles is not just theoretical. Iran has fired ballistic missiles against Iraq during the Iraq-Iran war and against various non-state actor adversaries in neighboring states in recent years. Moreover, Iranian proxies have fired Iranian-supplied missiles and rockets at U.S. regional partners Israel, Saudi Arabia, and the United Arab Emirates (UAE).
Iran’s missile program poses a serious threat to the security interests of the United States and its partners, both in the Middle East and beyond. Key U.S. objectives with respect to that program are to deter attacks and intimidation against the United States and its friends, impede quantitative and qualitative improvement in the regional missile capabilities of Iran and its proxies, maintain military capabilities that can degrade the ability of the missile forces of Iran and its proxies to achieve their objectives, and discourage and delay the development of missile capabilities that can reach beyond the region, including to Western Europe and the U.S. homeland.
Iran's current missile capabilities.