Donald Trump

[jem]

or assign greater value to alternating choices at different stages of child rearing.

studies like that are designed to allow subjective name calling.

I would say any person who voluntarily responds to that trash would most likely not be a Trump voter because those actually responding are too compliant. they would most likely be democrat drones.

another trash study for pseudo intellectuals by pseudo intellectuals with a political agenda.
anyone who creates a study like that should have have their phd pulled.. immediately upon publication.

This is a prime example of why I find these pseudo-scientific surveys frustrating. The choices presented are not mutually exclusive. A respondent could value them equally and be forced to choose one or the other randomly. Worthless IMO.

 

[Tsing Tao]

This took some hunting, but apparently the story I heard in the past few days on NPR is related to the Stanley Feldman (SUNY) study. They were it seems actually talking to the person who had done the study of Trump voters. If you search the NPR sight itself you may be able to replay it. I couldn't find it though. I'm not very good at using the NPR site to find old programs. At the link below, go down to "II." and look for Stanley Feldman. The study is explained there, including the questions they used about child rearing (I think). You can also search Google for "NPR trump voters correlated with authoritarian..."

The link I found is http://www.vox.com/2016/3/1/11127424/trump-authoritarianism

There were a couple of other graduate student dissertation studies (recent) I turned up, apparently using Feldman's method. Likely the NPR report was an interview of one of those Ph.D. students, because Feldman's work was done much earlier. (Or maybe it was with the author of the VOX article.)

I went back and copied the questions they asked. That's probably what you are interested in. Here they are. (this is from the VOX link.)

1. Please tell me which one you think is more important for a child to have: independence or respect for elders?
2. Please tell me which one you think is more important for a child to have: obedience or self-reliance?
3. Please tell me which one you think is more important for a child to have: to be considerate or to be well-behaved?
4. Please tell me which one you think is more important for a child to have: curiosity or good manners?

As a true Libertarian, I wouldn't be caught dead in this group, but you might find the article is about yourself, since you really aren't what you think you are. You are much closer to anarcho-laissez-faire capitalism then to Libertarianism. A lot of tea party folks were going around calling themselves Libertarians, but of course they had no idea what true Libertarian beliefs are.

First, thanks for attempting to research this. It's good that you'll try to post the sources of the stuff you claim. The other lefties on this site just say "google it" or don't even post anything at all to support their claims. So you get points for that.

Second, if those are the four questions asked, it's not hard to see where this "study" went off the rails. Good manners, for example, are something important in the South. This is a cultural difference - it doesn't mean a child shouldn't have curiosity, and trying to make something of people who choose manners and tying it to Trump in some way is a desperate attempt to take down Trump in some round about fashion.

Third, a the Libertarian party - as it stands today - is what I believe in. We've discussed this, but you're getting up there in age, so you probably forgot it. The Liberals were something different 150 years ago, too. Should they stop calling themselves liberals because it wasn't accurate to what 150 years ago followed? Of course not. These are the labels in which we define ourselves today. As such, I suggest you find a different label, because you're outdated. Might I suggest "liberal"? Because it fits your believe much closer to how we see things today.

 

[Tsing Tao]

This is a prime example of why I find these pseudo-scientific surveys frustrating. The choices presented are not mutually exclusive. A respondent could value them equally and be forced to choose one or the other randomly. Worthless IMO.

Precisely!

 

[gwb-trading]

 

[futurecurrents]

Ha ha, I'm sure it was a accident.

 

[fhl]

After Trump's elected, does anyone know of a good place I can buy some jackboots? I already have my redshirt. I'd like to be prepared for when duty calls.

 

[gwb-trading]

America's 5 stages of Trump grief, as told by 23 headlines
http://www.theweek.com/articles/612636/americas-5-stages-trump-grief-told-by-23-headlines

 

[gwb-trading]

'Simpsons' Writer Who Predicted Trump Presidency in 2000: "It Was a Warning to America"
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/simpsons-writer-who-predicted-trump-876295

See the 2:15 mark...

 

[piezoe]

First, thanks for attempting to research this. It's good that you'll try to post the sources of the stuff you claim. The other lefties on this site just say "google it" or don't even post anything at all to support their claims. So you get points for that.

Second, if those are the four questions asked, it's not hard to see where this "study" went off the rails. Good manners, for example, are something important in the South. This is a cultural difference - it doesn't mean a child shouldn't have curiosity, and trying to make something of people who choose manners and tying it to Trump in some way is a desperate attempt to take down Trump in some round about fashion.

Third, a the Libertarian party - as it stands today - is what I believe in. We've discussed this, but you're getting up there in age, so you probably forgot it. The Liberals were something different 150 years ago, too. Should they stop calling themselves liberals because it wasn't accurate to what 150 years ago followed? Of course not. These are the labels in which we define ourselves today. As such, I suggest you find a different label, because you're outdated. Might I suggest "liberal"? Because it fits your believe much closer to how we see things today.

This is not really a scientific study, as I understand it. It is based purely on statistics and the nature of the questions asked. There was a very high correlation between the authoritarian score on this "quiz" and Trump voters across all demographics. That was by far the best predictor of a Trump voter among the various measures tried. It is a practical measure. The Trump campaign can use this information to accurately identify their supporters with a high accuracy. Amazing!

By the way you fit another measure, not in this study, of those attracted to Trump . Which is odd, because I don't think you are a Trump fan are you?

On my way to New Orleans. No time to go into detail. Maybe later.

 

[Tsing Tao]

This is not really a scientific study, as I understand it. It is based purely on statistics and the nature of the questions asked. There was a very high correlation between the authoritarian score on this "quiz" and Trump voters across all demographics. That was by far the best predictor of a Trump voter among the various measures tried. It is a practical measure. The Trump campaign can use this information to accurately identify their supporters with a high accuracy. Amazing!

By the way you fit another measure, not in this study, of those attracted to Trump . Which is odd, because I don't think you are a Trump fan are you?

On my way to New Orleans. No time to go into detail. Maybe later.

No, I don't support Trump. The fact that I "fit" another one of your measures is pure coincidence, as I'm sure it is with the rest of those in the "study".