Donald Trump to Russia: Go Ahead, Attack Nato Allies Who Pay Too Little

[wrbtrader]

I asked you to post a link because you are saying I said something I never said.

You said it twice to post a link on two different things...I did it once including giving you further explanation just in case you did not realize what you said (apparently you did not).

You will not get the same courtesy for your other commentary after I gave you a detailed explanation of what you said about what progressives & blacks did in 2016 and plan to do again in 2024 (your own words when you described what they will do again)...a pattern of stupidity.

Let it go, move on, and go get some rest.

wrbtrader

 

[Tony Stark]

I have a much different experience...nearly every person I know in the United States and living abroad... plans to vote for Biden again or an Independent.

Polls show they are in the minority.

 

[Tony Stark]

You will not get the same courtesy for your other commentary after I gave you a detailed explanation of what you said about what progressives & blacks did in 2016 and plan to do again in 2024 (your own words when you described what they will do again)...a pattern of stupidity.

I thought you were saying that I said that they bitch and complain after Trump won.

As far as the pattern of stupidity that doesn't apply since most Progs and Blacks do not regret not voting for conservative/moderate democrats.


Also as far as the pattern of stupidity considering Biden has worse approval ratings than Trump the majority would say the pattern of stupidity is those voting for Biden again.

 

[smallfil]

Well that's all well and good, and I agree they do need to pay up... but the U.S. President, whoever it is, is required by treaty to defend any NATO state that gets attacked. So Trump should have chosen better words like "if countries aren't paying the required amount, and their European neighbors aren't willing to help them pay, then we will consider pulling out of the treaty because it's not fair to the US taxpayers."
That might have been a tad more appropriate.

Stuff like this, he's his own worst enemy. He can spell out a policy like that, and say that's where he stands if he's elected, but there's no need to just blab away with from the hip comments that are superfluous at best, and more than likely extremely detrimental to your campaign if you want to swing voters that are on the fence.

President Donald Trump has been telling NATO members to pay up when he was still in power and they refused to do so. What he should have done is pull out US troops and nuclear missiles out of Europe if they refuse to pay and started closing US bases in Europe. US taxpayers should not be paying for Europe's defense. Make their citizens pay for it. Had he done that, Europeans would have paid for it one way or the other. That is, boost their weapons stocks and added troops all on their citizens backs as it should be or pay the US for what was owed to the US.

 

[wrbtrader]

Polls show they are in the minority.

I think I misunderstood your use of the word "minority" when you're replying to my comments about those I know in the United States or abroad.

Most of those I know in the United States...are minorities (e.g. native Americans, asian Americans, hispanic Americans and some black Americans). In contrast, most of the American expats that I know who are living in Canada and France...they're overwhelmingly White.

I'm guessing of the American expats...about 30% are U.S. veterans.

wrbtrader

 

[Tony Stark]

I think I misunderstood your use of the word "minority" when you're replying to my comments about those I know in the United States or abroad.

Most of those I know in the United States...are minorities (e.g. native Americans, asian Americans, hispanic Americans and some black Americans). In contrast, most of the American expats that I know who are living in Canada and France...they're overwhelmingly White.

I'm guessing of the American expats...about 30% are U.S. veterans.

wrbtrader

I mean the minority of voters as the majority of voters say Biden is worse than Trump.

 

[wrbtrader]

I thought you were saying that I said that they bitch and complain after Trump won...

Correct, I was not saying that. I was only saying how they voted in 2016 and plan to vote here in 2014 involving not exercising their right to vote. Too many people believe "not voting" is a way "to vote" when they can choose the option of writing in their candidate if they do not like those on the ballot.

https://www.usa.gov/write-in-candidates

Several states bar write-in voting. For example, in Nevada, “voting must be only upon candidates whose names appear upon the ballot prepared by the election offices, and no person may write in the name of an additional candidate for any office.” 1. Similarly, in Oklahoma, “If the name of any person is written on a ballot, the name shall not be counted.” 2. Other states that bar write-in voting include Louisiana and South Dakota. Mississippi only permits write-in candidates if the candidate from a given party for a
specific office dies, resigns, or withdraws.​

Then again, here in 2024, there are more barriers (new laws) to disenfranchise minorities that were encouraged by Trump to be used in certain key states. Thus, in certain states, minorities will have a difficult time voting in comparison to 2020.

I gave an example about such involving my relatives in South Dakota. Their vote location was moved further away. In 2020, their vote location was within a mile away...now it is about a 30-minute drive away...from an area that supported Biden in 2020 to an area that supports Trump in 2024.

Disenfranchisement and Intimidation​

South Dakota is strongly RED, has one of the best secure voting systems in the United States and Trump overwhelmingly won in 2020. They had no complaints about their voting machines in the 2020 elections... the same voting machines in other states.

Yet, they put new bills because they (our Republicans) wanted more secure runoff elections, recounts, and ballot legitimacy. For example, the crap they proposed was to establish partisan recount boards that would ensure the state’s dominant party has more representation.

A bipartisan recount board would take away the bullshit and give a voice to minorities especially the Indigenous Americans in South Dakota.​

In other words, the Republicans (South Dakota's dominant party) would control the "partisan recount boards". The bill was initiated by a known Trump supporter in South Dakota.

wrbtrader

 

[CaptainObvious]

Well that's all well and good, and I agree they do need to pay up... but the U.S. President, whoever it is, is required by treaty to defend any NATO state that gets attacked. So Trump should have chosen better words like "if countries aren't paying the required amount, and their European neighbors aren't willing to help them pay, then we will consider pulling out of the treaty because it's not fair to the US taxpayers."
That might have been a tad more appropriate.

Stuff like this, he's his own worst enemy. He can spell out a policy like that, and say that's where he stands if he's elected, but there's no need to just blab away with from the hip comments that are superfluous at best, and more than likely extremely detrimental to your campaign if you want to swing voters that are on the fence.

Well, that's his problem, he doesn't know when to STFU which is surprising from Mr. Art of the Deal. Sales 101, you don't talk past the close, and he does it all the f'n time.

 

[vanzandt]

Well, that's his problem, he doesn't know when to STFU which is surprising from Mr. Art of the Deal. Sales 101, you don't talk past the close, and he does it all the f'n time.

i can honestly see in his personality, why so many that have worked for him have later said he was a jerk. I wouldn't last a day. He needs to just stick to his policies. Whoever is running his campaign should just go full on Biden 2020... and put his ass in the basement of Mar-a-Lago. At this point, it would be the best strategy.

I watched one of his rallies on C-Span the other day... and I'm not gonna lie... he's gotta knock off his bs, because the 38% (or whatever it is) that are cast in stone votes.... those rallies shouldn't be for them... "They're 'cast in stone' Mr President! We need the ones that aren't!" ----> duh.

I dunno, but like I said before, he'd fire me before lunch on day one. And I'd tell him to go f himself. But that's just me.

 

[vanzandt]

President Donald Trump has been telling NATO members to pay up when he was still in power and they refused to do so. .

Well, I don't keep up with these things as much as many here do Small, but if what you wrote is correct... then you should watch one of his rallies, because according to him, he got them to all pay, saving us "billions". So with due respect, 1) either you're wrong and they did pay their share, or 2) He's fos at his rallies. Which I just addressed in the previous post. So... you tell me.