Donald Trump Jr. is a sick fuck

Plenty of blame to go around in this horrible situation. Baldwin does bear some; he should have been aware of and following basic protocol. The bulk lies with the armorer and whoever handed him the weapon. Just my .02, I'm sure a lot of lawyers will make bank sorting this out.
Say I go to a friend's house and his kids are riding bikes out in the street.... I'm gonna teach them a lesson so I drive up on them real fast intending to slam on my brakes just to scare them. My brakes fail and I hit and kill one. I didn't know the brakes would fail, but at the same time, I did what I did. That's involuntary manslaughter and I'd be charged. Sure I'd get no jail time, but still, that charge is there for a reason I would think. So pointing a real gun at someone and pulling the trigger... sure seems like involuntary manslaughter to me.
But I'm no lawyer.
 
Say I go to a friend's house and his kids are riding bikes out in the street.... I'm gonna teach them a lesson so I drive up on them real fast intending to slam on my brakes just to scare them. My brakes fail and I hit and kill one. I didn't know the brakes would fail, but at the same time, I did what I did. That's involuntary manslaughter and I'd be charged. Sure I'd get no jail time, but still, that charge is there for a reason I would think. So pointing a real gun at someone and pulling the trigger... sure seems like involuntary manslaughter to me.
But I'm no lawyer.
And as an aside to this, I love how the MSM all weekend posted the photo of Baldwin hugging the husband and kid of the victim. As if that makes everything ok. If that had been Charlton Heston, you can bet they'd be screaming for the electric chair.
 
And as an aside to this, I love how the MSM all weekend posted the photo of Baldwin hugging the husband and kid of the victim. As if that makes everything ok. If that had been Charlton Heston, you can bet they'd be screaming for the electric chair.

You should keep in mind the family -- including the victim' father -- stated they don't blame Baldwin.

They did point the blame to others on the set.
 
Just heard on the radio, police found hundreds of live rounds on the set.

How many people was Alec planning to kill!! It could have been Las Vegas all over again!!!

That there were live rounds around used for target practice shooting was already announced, how many boxes hardly matters.

Blanks and live are impossible to mix up loading a gun and the gun was said to be cold/empty when handed over. Clearly negligence by the armourer and assistant director. I understand there were three identical guns and I expect this is where things were mixed up.
 
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Still think this is a tragic accident. I’ve never worked in any type of TV/Picture production, so have no idea of the safety protocols that would be in place but the first lesson in gun safety is you always treat a firearm as if it’s loaded. It is why you always clear a weapon when handling it.

One would assume, time restraints there are people in charge of this task i.e. armorer. But you’re really trusting that person if you don’t personally check or watch the firearm being loaded. If this turns out to be shrapnel from a blank, then they were in close proximity to Baldwin, the camera setup/angle, stage layout etc. would be to blame.

If it turns out to be a live round, regardless of who accidentally loaded the firearm, some blame has to fall on the shooter imo.

Sad.
 
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You are negligent in your thinking. There is failure all down the chain of custody on this, and the person least responsible for this is Alec, who probably knows diddly/squat on gun safety. He's given a prop gun and told...ACTION.

Here, kids, let's review the three primary rules of gun safety (with a 4th added in all by myself. Neener), which I call the firearm-safety pyramid.

I'm a registered MA State Police firearms instructor (And NRA as well, but fuck them, they steal from their membership for personal gains), so don't argue with me, because you will fail.

1. Always keep your firearm pointed in a safe direction.

2. Always keep your firearm unloaded until ready to shoot.

3. Always keep your finger off the trigger until ready to shoot.


Bonus! 3A. Always know what is beyond your target.

The problem started with the armorer, and the pyramid in this setting.

The pyramid is worded the way it is because it is always assumed that one will be handling live ammunition. There is nothing in the pyramid that covers something like a movie set, where there is usually no live ammunition around. So on a movie set, rule#1,2 and 3 are negated because let's face it, pointing a gun at the camera and pulling the trigger for that effect is, well, violating the rules, but is needed for that particular scene. But it is supposed to be with no live ammo.

With live ammo, if the top 3 rules are followed, there will be no injuries. You have to break all three rules to have an injury.

There should have been a single primary rule applied to the armorer, and all those down the line.

1. Assure no live ammunition is in the firearm when it is handed to the actor.

In this case, there is no pyramid, because playing cops and robbers on the TV screen doesn't need a pyramid. Just that one rule.

In firearm safety, when handing a gun to another person, you always assure that the breech is clear and the gun is in a safe mode. The person receiving the gun then checks to assure the gun's condition. (Action open, safety setting, etc.)

But you cannot expect that to be the case on a movie set where so many assumptions are made, and actors may have never handled a firearm before.

The actor/actress is really trusting the armorer here.
 
The "armorer:"

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