Don Miller 2.

Quote from xednise:

This place is so amusing and predictable too, great stuff people, lol. Keep it going, great entertainment value.


It sure is !


Just got this friendly PM from our beloved Don..ah Bob

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You hate the badmouthing because you have no experience with him , makes perfect sense...LOL

Keep it coming...



P.S. I would go back behind my PC and make loads of money, why waste your time with losers like us ?
 
Quote from puretruth:

It sure is !


Just got this friendly PM from our beloved Don..ah Bob

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You hate the badmouthing because you have no experience with him , makes perfect sense...LOL

Keep it coming...



P.S. I would go back behind my PC and make loads of money, why waste your time with losers like us ?

PureTruth: How is it you are so ignorant when it comes to the CFTC Disclaimer which is required by law in the NFA Manual/Rules? You will not find one Trading Educational Forum that does not address the issue of Hypothetical Results because they are required by law to put it in. Trading Futures is not the same as driving a car and your analogy is goofy at best. Please read the following so you will know what you are talking about next time.

http://www.forexlawblog.com/nfa-compliance-rule-2-29/ (Read (c) Hypothetical Results)
http://www.forexmentorprogram.com/hypothetical.htm
http://www.trade-system.com/aplus.html
http://www.csidata.com/cgi-bin/UASy...mmary&system=SH
http://www.smbtraining.com/TrainingProgram

Bob
 
Quote from puretruth:

Don,


Any time you present numbers that are not based on actual executed trades, you are talking about hypothetical trades and you need to put up the hypothetical disclaimer.

P.S. The link to invest2forex doesn't exist

The disclaimer is not referring to Don's trades but to possible trades students would take and that is the reason for the hypothetical disclaimer. The link to invest2forex does work--you just need to learn to use a computer.

Bob
 
You still missed the point of the total transparency Don demands, personal results, results of jellies..


Quote from bobfrank:

The disclaimer is not referring to Don's trades but to possible trades students would take and that is the reason for the hypothetical disclaimer. The link to invest2forex does work--you just need to learn to use a computer.

Bob
 
Quote from bobfrank:

The disclaimer is not referring to Don's trades but to possible trades students would take and that is the reason for the hypothetical disclaimer. The link to invest2forex does work--you just need to learn to use a computer.

Bob


You still don't get it ?

The hypothetical disclaimer is referring to the fact that students are being taught a hypothetical fantasy system that does not have an actual track record


"(c) Hypothetical Results.

(1) Any Member or Associate who uses promotional material which includes a measurement or description of or makes any reference to hypothetical performance results which could have been achieved had a particular trading system of the Member or Associate been employed in the past must include in the promotional material the following disclaimer prescribed by NFA’s Board of Directors: ....."

http://www.forexlawblog.com/nfa-compliance-rule-2-29/


IF YOU ARE PRESENTING ACTUAL RESULTS from a REAL SYSTEM > NO NEED FOR A HYPOTHETICAL DISCLAIMER

Simple as that, where are the actual results from Don on his site ?

He had all those on his free blog but when the course is offered , those magic numbers all of a sudden disappear, there is nothing wrong with presenting your actual results, you know ; here are the rules :

"(4) includes any reference to actual past trading profits without mentioning that past results are not necessarily indicative of future results;

(5) includes any specific numerical or statistical information about the past performance of any actual accounts (including rate of return)

(i) unless such information is and can be demonstrated to NFA to be representative of the actual performance for the same time period of all reasonably comparable accounts and,

(ii) in the case of rate of return figures, unless such figures are calculated in a manner consistent with CFTC Regulation 4.25(a)(7) for commodity pools and with CFTC Regulation 4.35(a)(6), as modified by NFA Compliance Rule 2-34(a), for figures based on separate accounts, or

(6) includes a testimonial that is not representative of all reasonably comparable accounts, does not prominently state that the testimonial is not indicative of future performance or success, and does not prominently state that it is a paid testimonial (if applicable)."

http://www.forexlawblog.com/nfa-compliance-rule-2-29/





Now put up your fu..... glasses ,
when I click on http://www.invest2forex.com/trading/currency-trading/http://www.fxcm.com/forex-system-selector.jsp

we see the following :

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I suggest you first learn to read before you start using a compter LMAO
 
This people trade for living, therefore only real disclaimer here.

"The risk of loss in trading commodities can be substantial. You should therefore carefully consider whether such trading is suitable for you in light of your financial condition. This website does not constitute an offer to sell or buy any securities and may not be used or relied upon in connection with any offer or sale of securities. It does not constitute a solicitation of clients and may not be used or relied upon in connection with any solicitation of clients. An offer or solicitation will be made only through a disclosure document for a particular trading program, and will be subject to the terms and conditions contained in such documents. The information set forth in this website does not purport to be complete."


http://www.compakalternatives.com/index.html

Edit: By the way no teaching either.
 
Quote from Son of a Gann:

This people trade for living, therefore only real disclaimer here.

"The risk of loss in trading commodities can be substantial. You should therefore carefully consider whether such trading is suitable for you in light of your financial condition. This website does not constitute an offer to sell or buy any securities and may not be used or relied upon in connection with any offer or sale of securities. It does not constitute a solicitation of clients and may not be used or relied upon in connection with any solicitation of clients. An offer or solicitation will be made only through a disclosure document for a particular trading program, and will be subject to the terms and conditions contained in such documents. The information set forth in this website does not purport to be complete."


http://www.compakalternatives.com/index.html


It has always been like this and always will :

"Those who can, do (they use a real disclaimer), those who can't, teach (use a hypothetical disclaimer)


You must be an idiot to teach your edge, creating competition for your own trades ?
 
Quote from bobfrank:

What are you talking about? If you think I'm Don Miller lets get it on and see if your right. $100 million is out of my league but $100,000 is just about enough. Do you want to do it? I private messaged you and am willing to call out your lies unless your so sure that your right. Come on fellow--lets get it on--right in front of the "Group" with an attorney (your choice) and put the money in ESCROW and see who is the liar. I'm sure Pekelo can help handle this disagreement.

Bob

It must be 100,000 of real money, not SIM money like you like to trade with. Just post one year's audited results and then we will get this going!!!
 
Quote from PPT:

It must be 100,000 of real money, not SIM money like you like to trade with. Just post one year's audited results and then we will get this going!!!

OK, this is one of my long term trust accounts with Vanguard. I have 2 trading accounts--one with Trade Station and one with MFGlobal. PLease show me your trading accounts and I will be delighted to show you mine. Anyone else who thinks I'm Don I would love to put some money on the table.

Bob

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Buy & Sell | Transaction History | Cost Basis
Price as of 11/10/2009

Name Fund & Account Shares Price & Change Value

Vanguard High-Yield Corporate Fund Investor Shares
0029- 5,710.682 $5.37 $0.01 $30,666.36
Vanguard Prime Money Market Fund
Sweep account-Trust Account, 0030- 387,252.040 $1.00 — $387,252.04
Vanguard Short-Term Treasury Fund Investor Shares
0032- 0.000 $10.88 $0.01 $0.00
Vanguard Inflation-Protected Securities Fund Investor Shares
0119- 2,595.711 $12.80 –$0.03 $33,225.10
Vanguard GNMA Fund Admiral Shares
0536- 14,218.121 $10.80 $0.01 $153,555.70
Vanguard Short-Term Investment-Grade Fund Admiral Shares
0539- 11,078.595 $10.61 — $117,543.89
Subtotal $722,243.09
Subtotal $722,243.09



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Price as of 11/11/2009 12:38 PM Eastern Standard Time

Name Symbol Account Type Quantity Price & Change Value

ABBOTT LABORATORIES
ABT Cash 75.000 $53.210 $0.41 $3,990.75
AMERISOURCEBERGEN CORP
ABC Cash 150.000 $24.202 –$0.14 $3,630.37
BP PLC SPONSORED ADR
BP Cash 101.551 $58.280 –$0.85 $5,918.39
BLACKSTONE GROUP LP UNIT REPRESENTING LTD PARTNERSHIP
BX Cash 300.000 $15.500 $0.18 $4,650.00
HUDSON CITY BANCORP INC
HCBK Cash 275.000 $13.455 $0.31 $3,700.12
ISHARES TRUST S&P LATIN AMERN 40 INDEX FD
ILF Cash 150.000 $47.731 –$0.03 $7,159.65
JPMORGAN CHASE & COMPANY
JPM Cash 75.249 $44.238 $0.07 $3,328.85
JOY GLOBAL INC
JOYG Cash 75.000 $57.030 $0.87 $4,277.25
MYLAN INC
MYL Cash 300.000 $17.630 $0.06 $5,289.00
NORTHROP GRUMMAN CORP
NOC Cash 85.000 $54.880 $0.92 $4,664.80
OLIN CORP NEW
OLN Cash 200.000 $16.838 $0.05 $3,367.54
ORACLE CORP
ORCL Cash 200.480 $21.910 $0.11 $4,392.52
POWERSHARES DB U S DOLLAR INDEX TRUST BULLISH FUND
UUP Cash 500.000 $22.490 $0.05 $11,245.00
PROSHARES TRUST PROSHARES ULTRASHORT 500 FUND
SDS Cash 300.000 $36.540 –$0.39 $10,961.85
TEVA PHARMACEUTICAL INDUSTRIES LIMITED ADR
TEVA Cash 100.000 $52.646 –$0.12 $5,264.60
WAL-MART STORES INC
WMT Cash 150.792 $52.500 $0.19 $7,916.58
TRANSOCEAN LIMITED NAMEN AKT
RIG Cash 50.000 $89.700 $1.20 $4,485.00
Net Credit (What is this?)
$10,748.71
Subtotal $104,990.98
Portfolio Total $827,234.07
 
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