Don Imus should have been fired

[nitro]

Quote from kut2k2:

Welcome to the age of YouTube.

It doesn't matter if you saw a program firsthand anymore; if it's controversial, somebody's going to put it on the net. Then everybody gets to weigh in on it.

Get used to it.

Huh ?

I don't click on the uTube link to it either? If one does, it s because one want to see the gossip.

The choice is still yours/ours to see the content or not, regardless of the medium used to send it.

nitro

 

[kut2k2]

Quote from nitro:

Huh ?

I don't click on the uTube link to it either? If one does, it s because one want to see the gossip.

The choice is still yours/ours to see the content or not, regardless of the medium used to send it.

nitro

You seem insistent on missing the point that if something is controversial enough, it's going to get in the news.

Like you said, if you don't like the show (in this case, the NEWS), then turn it off.

 

[ElCubano]

Quote from kut2k2:

Let's put it this way: Imus had a window of opportunity in which he could turned this whole thing largely to his advantage.

He had the microphone and the camera, so had he been sincere or even just clever enough to realize that the targets he chose were the wrong ones, he could have said something like

"Look, yesterday I went over the line and said some awful things about some decent young ladies that were uncalled for. Worse, I used some racially loaded language from the rap culture that I should have realized was totally inappropriate. I would like to ask those young women for the opportunity to apologize to them in person and to assure them that nothing like that will ever happen here again."

He could have cut Sharpton & Company off at the pass, had he just realized that he had gone too far in his shock jock schtick. If Sharpton still came out later to get him fired, Imus could have (had his staff done the research) pointed out why Sharpton was unqualified to be pointing fingers at anybody else (Tawanna Brawley, etc.)

But he totally blew it by legitimatizing Sharpton, going on Sharpton's show, and delivering a late apology loaded with excuses like his charity work and his support of Harold Ford. Weak.

He still might not have saved his job(s) but he would have come off looking vastly better than he has.

first off....he did apologize and too much i think..second they had suspended him for 2 weeks and cbs was going to do nothing...it is when they started pulling the plug that they eventually let him go; and they pulled the plug becuase sharpton said he wouldnt leave until imus got fired...so it really doesnt matter what imus could have done differently for the outcome would have been the same...with the exception of not saying what he said in the first place...

 

[nitro]

Watching the news about Imus getting fired is not the same thing as watching some guy spew racist crap, i.e., watching Imus. Further, if the newscast is tactful, it will put the story in a tactful way!

Do you see the distinction? I don't know how to put it any simpler.

nitro

Quote from kut2k2:

You seem insistent on missing the point that if something is controversial enough, it's going to get in the news.

Like you said, if you don't like the show (in this case, the NEWS), then turn it off.

 

[kut2k2]

Quote from nitro:

Watching the news about Imus getting fired is not the same thing as watching some guy spew racist crap, i.e., watching Imus. Further, if the newscast is tactful, it will put the story in a tactful way!

Do you see the distinction? I don't know how to put it any simpler.

nitro

Based on your initial post ("What I have never understood about these conflicts is: If the show offends you, why do you turn it on and watch it or listen to it?"), it looks like what's bothering you is the fact that this issue is news in the first place.

The reason it's news is:

Imus >>> YouTube >>> newsmedia

If the news offends you, why do you turn it on and watch it or listen to it?

I don't know how to put it any simpler.

 

[kut2k2]

Quote from madmunny:

the funniest part about all this is that it was an off-handed remark made to intentionally offend people as this is what shock-jocks do....it was not a racial slur and should not be viewed that way...if it had been a group of fat chicks and he called them fatty hoes there would not be this huge uproar.

but the best part is now when ever anybody wants to insult a black lady out comes the old handy "nappy headed hoe" insult that would never have been used again if it wasnt for that bag of shit sharpton and his goons.

you idiots that are going off on imus are just compounding the problem of racism 1000% times more that imus ever could....now every person who isnt black is just thinkin to themselves....oh god the blacks are whining again.......

but i guess if sharpton didnt stick his dumbass nose into these situations and make them 1000 times worse than they really are....what the fuck good would he be?

People who go looking for excuses to be bigots are going to be bigots regardless. So stop acting like it's the fault of people you're prejudiced against already that you act like an asshole towards them.

 

[Sam321]

You miss the point. This has nothing to do with Imus, him getting fired, or racism. It’s about reinstating the Fairness Doctrine so the Left can shut down talk radio and eventually place curbs on the internet, as a means to re-take their media monopoly to control the American Mind like Mao did with the Chinese and Stalin did with the Russians.

Show me a racist person, and I will show you ten who fear the freedom of speech.

Quote from kut2k2:

People who go looking for excuses to be bigots are going to be bigots regardless. So stop acting like it's the fault of people you're prejudiced against already that you act like an asshole towards them.

 

[Cesko]

There are victims of all races in this Bushized nation, but klanboys like you only see one race.
Bushized, klanboy....., this is too old of a cliche. Care to get little more clever?
I don't know how many times I got called klan..,bush whatever by so called "progressive ones", at the same time you (of all types of people) are so quick to call others bigots.
No matter how sophisticated you (and your kind) fancy to think of yourself, in reality, you are highly predictable simpletons.

Now I am going to declare myself a victim so I can start demanding favors from assholes in Washington.

 

[kut2k2]

Quote from Sam321:

You miss the point. This has nothing to do with Imus, him getting fired, or racism. It’s about reinstating the Fairness Doctrine so the Left can shut down talk radio and eventually place curbs on the internet, as a means to re-take their media monopoly to control the American Mind like Mao did with the Chinese and Stalin did with the Russians.

Show me a racist person, and I will show you ten who fear the freedom of speech.

That's not the point madmunny was making, but thanks for the non sequitur into your paranoid delusions all the same.

 

[kut2k2]

Quote from Cesko:

There are victims of all races in this Bushized nation, but klanboys like you only see one race.
Bushized, klanboy....., this is too old of a cliche. Care to get little more clever?
I don't know how many times I got called klan..,bush whatever by so called "progressive ones", at the same time you (of all types of people) are so quick to call others bigots.
No matter how sophisticated you (and your kind) fancy to think of yourself, in reality, you are highly predictable simpletons.

Now I am going to declare myself a victim so I can start demanding favors from assholes in Washington.

Why not? You've already played the victim card while accusing others of doing the same:

In this fucking country everybody is a "victim" unless you are while male then it's an open season, no mercy for you.

Yeah, every White male in this country is suffering oppression, including Bush and Cheney.

Dude, you got your head so far up your ass, you can't see daylight. Get help. Please.