Quote from bighitter1:
so don you're saying high vol traders pay 1/2 of 1 cent a share or .005 for the first 1000 shares? how do you say thats as good as most firms? ask all the guys from hold and echo on here what they pay. i've talked to tons of them and the going rate from these big firms is .003 or less per share and tons of buying power.
Quote from mc312:
Well, that could be. What I had in mind is a person with who doesn't have the $25,000 required to satisfy the PDT rule. It would make sense for him to look to a prop shop with remote trading.
Quote from volente_00:
Show me a trader just starting out using 30 to 1 leverage on 5k that makes 17 % roi.
Quote from mc312:
But what about 4 to 1 leverage with a $5,000 account? If he wasn't cut out to be a trader and ended up quitting after six months, he would probably have lost a lot less than if he had had a $25,000 account with 4 to 1 leverage.
Quote from volente_00:
If you are just starting out you do not need to be using borrowed money to begin with. You have 5k, then trade 100 shares of a $50 stock until you put together something that works. Margin will do nothing for you but blow up your account sooner.
Quote from mc312:
True. But there is still the PDT rule to contend with. Unless the newbie wanted to start out with swing trading, he wouldn't be able to practice with 5K or 10K or even 20K. He might end up holding a losing position just to avoid the PDT rule and do a lot of damage to his account. Avoiding this situation is probably the best service that some of these prop firms provide. They let one get a taste of real trading, but with smaller sizes.