Doing virutal or actual trading could damage human brains?

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I've been thinking about the difference between OODA and MADA since I'd encountered these acronyms in one of your posts some time ago. The problem is, I couldn't make noteworthy sense of them besides some semantic and (as far as I can? think) negligible differences. Where is THE difference between observe + orient on the one side and monitor +analyse on the other?

OODA is the betting algorithm of cw and fighter pilots. this is where prediction is the essence of CW and why all the other band aids are introduced. I added the chart below and you see the bet (hypothesis) is a decision and following that an action is taken to put the chips into the market based on the bet.

In MADA there is no bet and no future. MADA has eliminated theneed to bet, to predict, and there is no probability as a consequence of only dealing with certainty. There is no doubt that most people have made a series of past decisions that preclude their consideration of MADA as a possible trading orientation.

The subfeatures LTP and LTD don't tell me anything.( The LTP, which is the only one I managed to look up, delivers "Latest Take Precedence" as explanation??? I know I must be completely on the wrong track with this one.) What importance do you attribute to them?

As far as I could understand you still allow for the possibility of tolerance being reinforcing for sensitivity in some constellations?

I hope, I don't bore you with my questions.
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I put up the pic and then did more typing that exceeded 30 mins.

since I save stuff in word because threads are occasionally dleted in their entirety, i did that.

below is the whole nine yards.

Quote from gucci:

I've been thinking about the difference between OODA and MADA since I'd encountered these acronyms in one of your posts some time ago. The problem is, I couldn't make noteworthy sense of them besides some semantic and (as far as I can? think) negligible differences. Where is THE difference between observe + orient on the one side and monitor +analyse on the other?

OODA is the betting algorithm of cw and fighter pilots. this is where prediction is the essence of CW and why all the other band aids are introduced. I added the chart below and you see the bet (hypothesis) is a decision and following that an action is taken to put the chips into the market based on the bet.

In MADA there is no bet and no future. MADA has eliminated theneed to bet, to predict, and there is no probability as a consequence of only dealing with certainty. There is no doubt that most people have made a series of past decisions that preclude their consideration of MADA as a possible trading orientation.

The subfeatures LTP and LTD don't tell me anything.( The LTP, which is the only one I managed to look up, delivers "Latest Take Precedence" as explanation??? I know I must be completely on the wrong track with this one.) What importance do you attribute to them?

Let me be more helpful. In learning the mind "grows" by neuron linkages and building the mind in pieces that are side by side in a given area. Take the tome of music and sound. If a person is growing his mind constructively he creates a paino keyboard equivalent in an area of his mind. The tones are all lined up side by side constructively. Through usage and reinforcement quite a group of neurons come to support each tone. As time passes this gets fairly precise. The p[rocess over time and involving neurons and their chemical support system is called LTP (Long Term Potentiation). This example lets you see why we do Forests, trees. linbs.....bugs. These are all side by side in the mind and, further, since we use the same construct for each fractal, there is a further dimension of solidness through repetition. Tones do this dual thing too. aha's and AHA's come from the unconscious pairing with the conscious as sleeping occurs and the mind does its undesturbed building while no sensory input is happening. As you see, trading is advancing among more and more participants and the many lurkers because all these people have minds that are well build and reinforcing. LTP has really been at work here. For example, Spyder has looked at ES charts for two years. you have seen a post where reversal to reversal with 50 contracts makes over 20 points per contract. His mind has been LTP'ing and he has built the streams of neurons that side by side cover the finite set aspects of MADA and he does not have a trap mentally that is OODA. OODA, as Steenbarger tells us, needs constant professional maintenance to rid the fear, anxiety and anger that wells up over time as OODA is used. Betting can lead to cross wiring because of all the bandaids that accompany it.

MADA at an expert level does 20 to 40 actions (behavioral reverses a day). Greenspoon using OODA does 60 actions a day. He trades 400 contracts and nets less than a tick per contract per trade (10,000 dollars a day on average). MADA, as in the example, is pool extracting and NOT betting. One reverse to reverse did over four days total trading of Greenspoon by using MADA.

This is an unbelievable and astonishing comparison for most minds to consider. These minds are not wired for MADA and it is not a possible endeavor for these minds.

LTD is Long Term Depression. In neuroplasticity "depression" is a neuron and chemisrry combo term and has nothing to do with the psychologist's or Psychiatrist"s term depression. That is an illness people catch by not wearing the proper attire to functions.

LTD is the erasure of the mind. this activity goes on when good stuff needs room in the mind and the mind works to make a place for it by "erasing" bad stuff in a slow and deliberate fashion if the mind is constantly being asked so to do.

As far as I could understand you still allow for the possibility of tolerance being reinforcing for sensitivity in some constellations?

neuroplasticity as we will find out, more or less revolutionalizes the normalizationisms belief system. It is like how tectonic plate theory came on the scene in geology in the 50's; geology has never been the same since.

Tolerance is a principle of how the mind deals with addiction. How can Trader28 or Trader666 not do more and more of what they do?

Once LTP is allowing growth. This development of areas allows for and is called "differentiation". In 21, I sit and count, they keep changing dealers. I use an ice bucket for chips, other use cups of soda size. When it was easy long long ago, it was a solo MIT movie type thing...all tables were great because I had differentiation as a "deck" thing. Multiple decks are just "smoother".

To trade with expert differentiation was what was demostrate here over several years. First, with stocks from a Universe and now with SCT on several levels. We created drills and slugs of time to build "differentiation" in an area of the mind one area at a time and in the proper area order.

By the time a person goes from two adjacent bars and their lowly ends and then MADA using channels and Gaussians in forests, trees, limbs... he has gone far towards "knowing that he knows".

Obviously, there are many millionaires building themselves lurkily or by Q&A. All by drills..... drills are the work.

It is not inventing or competition or one up manship. It is gracefully building the mind to have differentiation all over the place in the mind.

Cheese did not understand what I meant by sports memory (the smooth unthinking trading of carving everyturn all day long in a pleasant supportive, comfort, and confident "feeling" set. We have affected "transference" by building minds through the use of drills where there is NO probability, No betting, NO protection of stops, NO money management and only just binary vector in finite sets that follow a sequence of certainty. I know professional race car drivers have complex lives and challenges, but trading is NOT a race car driver experience.


I hope, I don't bore you with my questions.

Waiting several years for your Q's has been a delight. the market offers and everydrop is there to collect by pool extraction in NOW just doing what your mind perceives the market is telling you to do.

Last week I watched zdawg lose 25% of his capital in five days. What was so difficult to endure was seeing the destruction of his wiring and the building of all that cross wiring.

so we need business plans. We need trading plans. Having those, we build our minds using a CPM to become experts in pool extraction where no competition can even exist among traders. (Tdog now interjects his adverb comment and word count)
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Hi jack, thanks for the great post. By CPM are you referring to the Critical Path Method?

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yes.

i think I'll just put the terms in (...... ) from now on..
 
my little mind can see clearly now. the division between myself and jack is that he thinks he has a brain and can somehow use it to make money trading or coach others into "doing it" like spydertrader and other such smart "by their own definition" people.

myself on the other hand admit to myself and the world i am not smart enough to trade the markets and so i use a computer as a tool to do my decision making for me. i am addicted to this notion because i have independent audited track records of actually making money in the markets as a principle of several successful cta's.

i care more about the results - jack and his camp all care about the process. i am to busy enjoying the fruits of the results to give a rats about the process. now there was a time when i was broke when i worshiped the process. but i woke up and realized i need to make money this is what counts at least to me. call me dumb, my bankers cal me mister.

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but i woke up and realized i need to make money this is what counts at least to me. call me dumb, my bankers cal me mister.
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And since you didn't have the ability to do so from actual trading you chose instead to sell seminars for five grand a pop, place Google ads on your web site as an added revenue stream, and hawk systems on Ebay?

- Spydertrader

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And since you didn't have the ability to do so from actual trading you chose instead to sell seminars for five grand a pop, place Google ads on your web site as an added revenue stream, and hawk systems on Ebay?

- Spydertrader

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i appreciate the ad thanks its something that the mods wont dare allow me to do on et - fyi i have everything for sale so if anyone wants to make money trading i will sell you what you need. plus i will guarantee what i sell you to make money.

people like jack and spydertrader are unsure little wannabe traders. i have a verified track record. do they? i offered to fund an account and trade against jack or spydertrader have they taken me up on? i have account statements of my trading for the past 20 years available for anyone who wants to wade through all the things i have done. both good and bad, i'm not a perfect trader but i did stick my neck out and call a bottom on the sp today.

will jack or spydertrader do that? show me something dudes. i am in a class far beyond where you turds are. im not near as smart as either of you but i will commit to something and post trades in real time and prior to them happening.

none of this well maybe it will go up and maybe it will go down crap. i have the goods and yea i will sell them, trade them give them away - oh you failed to mention i have given away more fully automated successful trading systems published in major magazines than either of you and all your cult followers combined. cause not one of you have an original idea, term or another method to trade and make money trading.

i have such an abundance i sell off research, yea. i didn't pedal it here did i my feedback is 100% notice that? your the one who is slinging mud and you pal are the pig here not me.

mb

where's that female mod protector of jacks when you need her?
 
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my little mind can see clearly now. the division between myself and jack is that he thinks he has a brain and can somehow use it to make money trading or coach others into "doing it" like spydertrader and other such smart "by their own definition" people.

myself on the other hand admit to myself and the world i am not smart enough to trade the markets and so i use a computer as a tool to do my decision making for me. i am addicted to this notion because i have independent audited track records of actually making money in the markets as a principle of several successful cta's.

i care more about the results - jack and his camp all care about the process. i am to busy enjoying the fruits of the results to give a rats about the process. now there was a time when i was broke when i worshiped the process. but i woke up and realized i need to make money this is what counts at least to me. call me dumb, my bankers cal me mister.

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Hi Mister,

If you go here:

http://www.markbrown.com/daytrading.shtml

You will find a typo on the first line. The word "cense" may better be spelled "sense".

If you are doing any business with your CTA's, I would suggest naming yourself a "principal" instead of calling yourself a "principle".

Good trading.
 
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blah blah blah strawman strawman and what the hell, an ad hominem or two for good measure.
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So was that a yes? You' realized you needed to make money, so you decided to sell tickets to seminars?

Classic ET moment #327

- Spydertrader
 
Quote from jack hershey:

Hi Mister,

If you go here:

http://www.markbrown.com/daytrading.shtml

You will find a typo on the first line. The word "cense" may better be spelled "sense".

Good trading.
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i won't run real quick and change it because that will not make me better at what i do or diminish the size of my accounts. i am focused on RESULTS jack not indulging in mental masturbation like you and spydertrader and your cult who between all of you probably placed as many trades in 5 years as i do a day.

i told you you were smarter than i am and so was john nash and einstein so fine i am not able to get a whole big stupid forum, its owner and mods to follow me around like a puppy chasing a bone. but i have traded profitably 50,000 rt of e-mini sp's a day on a tt platform have you?


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