Doing Away with the Federal Reserve

Quote from gnome:

"Dow 100,000" is in the bag. Problem is that you might need all of it to buy a 6-pack of Charmin.

When the money and inflation go parabolic, so does the stock market. Unfortunately it all gets valued down to a near-worthless currency. So even though you accumulate $100 Million, it may be worth little more than Monopoly money. History is RIFE with examples. America is NOT going to be the exception. Only fools would ignore this.

What does infaltion really hurt though. For the most part, a wise investor is protected from inflation.
 
Quote from Cache Landing:


Getting off of the gold standard was the right thing to do. Current monetary policy is debatable, as is fractional reserve banking. Nobod ever said that controlling the money supply and fractional reserve banking were perfect, but they allow for certain things. Those things have been agreed to be worth the problems. In my estimation they are worth it, but every once in a while things get a bit crazy.

Alas - a reasoned view (though one I don't entirely agree with) - this thread was getting a little stale with a technician and a state school grad (I kid I kid, I have many friends in the Berkeley econ faculty).
 
Quote from Cache Landing:

What does infaltion really hurt though. For the most part, a wise investor is protected from inflation.

Not really. Seems like it for a while, then ultimately accelerates away leaving almost investors in the dust. The BIG problem comes when the currency gets slammed. When the currency loses 90-99% of its value, it doesn't matter how much "money" you have accumulated. It's all pretty much worthless.
 
Quote from Bullz n Bearz:

I've learned a lot about how the fed is harming our economy and will only continue to make matters worse in the future. We used to be an economy that actually had gold and silver packed away in the reserves. The government would issue us notes and those notes were actually worth what they said they were.

Nowadays, money(notes) is printed in such excess that we don't have anymore gold or silver to back it. So, what does the fed do about this?

Continues to print more money. You wonder why there is so much buying going on in these markets.. Because so many people are pulling out debts and using the fed's money that is printed in the excess!

Congress needs to shape up and Wall St. needs to stand up for getting rid of the federal reserve or at least have the fed slow up on printing all this money!

How do you think we could survive from day to day if the money supply is slowed down and not as much is printed? What would you think would be the first pro-active step in a post-federal reserve world save the value of our money?

Intellectual thoughts need only apply. ;)

Reading your thoughts is enough to make me wonder how you ever think people would trust you with trading or adivising how to trade their money. But of course, your 5 week track record is probably enough.
 
Quote from gnome:

Not really. Seems like it for a while, then ultimately accelerates away leaving almost investors in the dust. The BIG problem comes when the currency gets slammed. When the currency loses 90-99% of its value, it doesn't matter how much "money" you have accumulated. It's all pretty much worthless.

I agree with you 99% of the time, and I think you are a wise trader, but I disagree with you here.

People here can't say that inflation hurts investment value, and then in the next breath say that the DOW will hit 100,000 because of inflation.

The only people hurt by US inflation are importers, and people who are no longer working who's money is under the matress (or somewhere else that grows slower than inflation). The working class for the most part don't even notice inflation as wages increase in tandem.
 
Quote from rcanfiel:

Reading your thoughts is enough to make me wonder how you ever think people would trust you with trading or adivising how to trade their money. But of course, your 5 week track record is probably enough.

Ahh... see - the skills needed to open a trading account and be a "stock/forex/futures/options trader" are: (1) be able to read and write, (2) can add a few numbers together - not necessarily correctly, (3) can tell the difference between a blue line and a red line.

God bless their hearts.
 
Quote from Cache Landing:

The only people hurt by US inflation are importers, and people who are no longer working who's money is under the matress (or somewhere else that grows slower than inflation). The working class for the most part don't even notice inflation as wages increase in tandem.

Working class wages do not keep with inflation

Note: Wall Streeters are not 'working class' they are paper pushers
 
Quote from Cache Landing:

"... Getting off of the gold standard was the right thing to do.

Yes and no. Repealing the gold backing of the $USD could have been a PROPER facilitator of commerce had it not been abused by the Gummint and its cronies.

About 25 years ago on Wall Street Week, Ruky had Milton Friedman as a guest. Ruky asked, "What should be done with the Fed?" Friedman, "It should be abolished....Then replaced with a computer which expanded the money supply by the rate of population growth, about 2% per year... and let capitalism be capitalism." (I know this to be true because I watched it.)

That would have been the best of both worlds. Though the currency would still be Federal Reserve Notes, the buying power of the $USD would have been maintained... and commerce would have been accommodated.

They DIDN'T do that. Why? Who benefited? Who was harmed? Answer those questions and you will understand "The Fed".
 
Quote from Cache Landing:

I agree with you 99% of the time, and I think you are a wise trader, but I disagree with you here.

People here can't say that inflation hurts investment value, and then in the next breath say that the DOW will hit 100,000 because of inflation.

The only people hurt by US inflation are importers, and people who are no longer working who's money is under the matress (or somewhere else that grows slower than inflation). The working class for the most part don't even notice inflation as wages increase in tandem.

Not true. I recently heard from a grocery check-out person, "food's going up like crazy, but my wages are not keeping up."

Inflation is the DEVIL. Debasing the currency/inflation is one of the WORST possible afflictions a government can impose on its people... and history tells us "that's business as usual". Ask yourself "WHY is it business as usual?". Figure that out and you will understand perhaps THE most important fact of modern economics.
 
Quote from gnome:

Not true. I recently heard from a grocery check-out person, "food's going up like crazy, but my wages are not keeping up."

Inflation is the DEVIL. Debasing the currency/inflation is one of the WORST possible afflictions a government can impose on its people... and history tells us "that's business as usual". Ask yourself "WHY is it business as usual?". Figure that out and you will understand perhaps THE most important fact of modern economics.

Wait a second - there's no inflation on gold standard? I seem to remember the spaniards had a little problem with that when a lot of gold was discovered....

Moreover, inflation isn't fun - but neither is deflation. Some might argue that deflation is worse (think Japan - inflation can be combated with raising rates, deflation is much much harder to fight). Gold standard makes it a bit easier to slip into deflation than fiat money.

Oh, and on the point of fractional reserve - all the Fed does is regulate fractional reserve requirements. Fractional reserve banking has been around for as long as banks have been around. The Mediccis were practicing fractional reserve lending since its earlier banking operations. Sort of required to make the whole thing work. Wait - I'm supposed to be reading more history right?
 
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