Does Trump have to go through the presidential nomination process for 2024?

[TreeFrogTrader]

I always though the current president doesn't have to go through the nomination process.

It's a little bit more complicated.

The fundamental issue is "how does a president or a candidate get on a ballot." The answer involves a hodge-podge of state and federal laws that are mixed in with party rules.

So, to simplify it quite a bit, states will allow political parties to be on a ballot if they got x number of people to sign a petition or if the party got X number of votes in the last election. Rules like that.

So in regard to your question, here is where those factors get complicated: Biden gets his right to bypass the primary thing because the democrat party has the right to be on the ballot/to have a candidate on the ballot based on the fact that the dem party has gotten X number of votes in the past. BUT....BUT...BUT.....the actual candidate is the one chosen by the party.

So...to continue.....that usually means that if everyone in the party headquarters/decisionmakers is happy with the incumbent because he is their man then they just announce that he will be their candidate in the next election and don't run a primary vote. But the incumbent does not have a right to that just because it is the custom. An incumbent can be challenged in the primarty - as Ted Kennedy ran against Jimmy Carter if the incumbent turns out to be a real bozo. Usually they will just let a primary run and let the incumbent win and the fringe candidates end out being fringe. But they can just kill it too if they want, as they did with Trump. They just announced that there would be no primary.

Sorry for the detail but with a bozo in office now who is not supported by many in his own party for a second term, it is important to keep some of that info in mind. Just as Carter ended out getting primaried, there will be calls to run a competent candidate against Biden if he decides to run again. And the dem party will take major heat if they do not run a full primary and make Joe compete even though he would be the incumbent.

Complicated? Yep.

 

[Snarkhund]

It's a little bit more complicated.

The fundamental issue is "how does a president or a candidate get on a ballot." The answer involves a hodge-podge of state and federal laws that are mixed in with party rules.

So, to simplify it quite a bit, states will allow political parties to be on a ballot if they got x number or people to sign a petition or if the part got X number of votes in the last election. Rules like that.

So in regard to your question, here is where those factors get complicated: Biden gets his right to bypass the primary thing because the democrat party has the right to be on the ballot/to have a candidate on the ballot based on the fact that the dem party has gotten X number of votes in the past. BUT....BUT...BUT.....the actual candidate is the one chosen by the party.

So...to continue.....that usually means that if everyone in the party headquarters/decisionmakers is happy with the incumbent because he is their man then they just announce that he will be their candidate in the next election and don't run a primary vote. But the incumbent does not have a right to that just because it is the custom. An incumbent can be challenged in the primarty - as Ted Kennedy ran against Jimmy Carter if the incumbent turns out to be a real bozo. Usually they will just let a primary run and let the incumbent win and the fringe candidates end out being fringe. But they can just kill it too if they want, as they did with Trump. They just announced that there would be no primary.

Sorry for the detail but with a bozo in office now who is not supported by many in his own party for a second term, it is important to keep some that info in mind. Just as Carter ended out getting primaried, their will be calls to run a competent candidate against Biden if decides to run again. And the dem party will take major heat if they do not run a full primary and make Joe compete even though he would be the incumbent.

Complicated? Yep.

Well... there is the potential primary challenge by Adam Kitzinger.... LOL.

 

[wildchild]

He doesn't. He's the incumbent. You do not nominate someone who is not running for president. Because he is already the president.

You are a fucking idiot and once again, you have NO IDEA what you are talking about.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Republican_Party_presidential_primaries
Presidential primaries and caucuses of the Republican Party took place in many U.S. states, the District of Columbia, and five U.S. territories from February 3 to August 11, 2020, to elect most of the 2,550 delegates to send to the Republican National Convention. Delegates to the national convention in other states were elected by the respective state party organizations. The delegates to the national convention voted on the first ballot to select Donald Trump as the Republican Party's presidential nominee for president of the United States in the 2020 election, and selected Mike Pence as the vice-presidential nominee.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries
From January 3 to June 5, 2012, voters of the Democratic Party chose its nominee for president in the 2012 United States presidential election. President Barack Obama won the Democratic Party nomination by securing more than the required 2,383 delegates on April 3, 2012, after a series of primary elections and caucuses. He was formally nominated by the 2012 Democratic National Convention on September 5, 2012, in Charlotte, North Carolina.[1]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Republican_Party_presidential_primaries
From January 19 to June 8, 2004, voters of the Republican Party chose its nominee for president in the 2004 United States presidential election. Incumbent President George W. Bush was again selected as the nominee through a series of primary elections and caucuses culminating in the 2004 Republican National Convention held from August 30 to September 2, 2004, in New York City.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries
From January 29 to June 4, 1996, voters of the Democratic Party chose its nominee for president in the 1996 United States presidential election. Incumbent President Bill Clinton was again selected as the nominee through a series of primary elections and caucuses culminating in the 1996 Democratic National Convention held from August 26 to August 29, 1996, in Chicago, Illinois.

 

[wildchild]

I always though the current president doesn't have to go through the nomination process.

They have to have to nominated just like everyone else. Usually since they are already the sitting President it is mostly a formality, because it is difficult for someone else to get enough support unless they are really a shitty President. If Biden decides to run again, he may very well face a serious attempt to un-seat him. The last time someone had a real chance was in 1980. Ted Kennedy mounted a decent campaign. He didnt pull it off, but had Carter seriously sweating.

BTW, do not listen to anything Overnight says. The guy simply has no idea what he is talking about the majority of the time.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1980_Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries
From January 21 to June 3, 1980, voters of the Democratic Party chose its nominee for president in the 1980 United States presidential election. Incumbent President Jimmy Carter was again selected as the nominee through a series of primary elections and caucuses, culminating in the 1980 Democratic National Convention, held from August 11 to August 14, 1980, in New York City.

Carter faced a major primary challenger in Senator Ted Kennedy of Massachusetts, who won 12 contests and received more than seven million votes nationwide, enough for him to refuse to concede the nomination until the second day of the convention. This remains the last election in which an incumbent president's party nomination was still contested going into the convention.

 

[Overnight]

You are a fucking idiot and once again, you have NO IDEA what you are talking about...

I stand corrected, and I apologize for getting it wrong.

No need for you to get so testy on me about it. This is your vitriol against me once again which started over me not hearing the cat calls during the anthem in a football game. Sheesh, give it a rest, man.

I APOLOGIZE! MAKE PEACE NOT WAR!