Does science make belief in God obsolete?
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You have correctly linked this world with "your thoughts". Since we are one, these are *our thoughts*. Every image is a thought, believed in, and given a semblence of power. Bodies are images representing the idea of separation and the *judgement* that the idea is true. Since these are *within* "my" mind, I may change my mind about them. As I do, my experience of them will change. If they are not wanted, there will be no more experience of them.
The ideas supporting this world are confusing enough to where you could dump everything you think you know and be better off...including what you think is the truth. When you cast away everything you think you know, only then can an empty net catch fish. The truth itself will fill the empty net with what you need to know to extradite yourself from this web of self-deception. That goes for me as well. Have no fear about casting aside everything you think you know. You could do it daily and still be better off. What will remain is the truth, for the truth stands regardless of what we think.
Perhaps your ideas about Christian Science are different from mine. I could cast mine away and you could cast yours away, and we would probably be better off. However, I suggest that a study of Health and Science by Mary Baker Eddy is useful on the path to truth.
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Science does not make God obsolete.
1. Science knowledge or understand does not even have to intersect with a belief in God.
If scientists want to set up straw men or believers want to make statements like the earth is only 5000 years old - science could make that belief obsolete.
But, why set up such a ridiculous argument. First of all - who says the earth is only 5000 years old. That belief is not even consistent with the new testament. It is the guesswork of a monk.
2. If you reduce the question down to the real point.... Does science rule out a creator - Scicence as we know it now does not even claim it can answer the question. So it clearly does not make questions about existence obselete. It may support a belief in God.
1. Science knowledge or understand does not even have to intersect with a belief in God.
If scientists want to set up straw men or believers want to make statements like the earth is only 5000 years old - science could make that belief obsolete.
But, why set up such a ridiculous argument. First of all - who says the earth is only 5000 years old. That belief is not even consistent with the new testament. It is the guesswork of a monk.
2. If you reduce the question down to the real point.... Does science rule out a creator - Scicence as we know it now does not even claim it can answer the question. So it clearly does not make questions about existence obselete. It may support a belief in God.
You clearly have not done your homework. In the seminar to which I directed you earlier in this thread, Dr. Miller discusses the so-called missing link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVRsWAjvQSg
Sorry, but how you continue to revert to a false argument compels me to question your intellectual honesty.
Science may support a belief in God? Now there's an argument turned on its ear, eh? Only a dyed-in-the-wool republican could convolute logic so seamlessly.
Obsolete for what you have decided is your purpose...
Free will in action...self-responsibility.
Free will in action...self-responsibility.
These discussions are such a waste of time.
A scientist has no more credibilty when discussing God or an Ultimate Creator than does the Pope. No human alive knows anything for certain regarding the WHY of our universe, and likely never will.
The opinion of your mail carrier is as valid as that of Einstein.
For every possible scenario that one can imagine for the creation and structure of the universe, there are countless problems to be overcome in logic, physics and matters of faith. And this will always be so.
To answer the question that is the title of this thread, I think that, apart from those things that science has uncovered that had previously been shrouded in religious mysticism, science and religious faith are fairly independent of one another. Science is the quest for knowledge, pure and simple. Faith, as I see it, is a quest for solace and comfort. Allow me to explain. If I felt that I needed more friends in my life to feel more happy and "complete," then I would look to fill that gap by making more friends. And if I felt that a single mortal life, or life's random (and not so random) injustices from time to time left me wanting, then I might look to fill that gap with faith of something more, something bigger. In that respect, science and religious faith have nothing to do with one another.
Some may disagree, but that is my honest opinion.
Some may disagree, but that is my honest opinion.