Quote from Gringinho:
Jesus,
But as long as we are talking about the various schools of religion, we sort of need to not misrepresent what they are standing for.
Generally, a religion will stand for one of two ideas: guilt or innocence. The teachers of innocence lead toward heaven. The teachers of guilt lead into/around hell, that is, this world [pre and post "Big Bang"]. The concept of guilt led to the Big Bang. So here is cause and effect in order. The world exists to hide and maintain guilt as a valid concept. There is eventually a "revolt" against this "religion", which is basically of and for the world as is. It is all about the status quo. So religion has become synonymous with the teachings of guilt. The Torah teaches guilt. Laws teach guilt. Lawmakers teach guilt. But always remember, the concept of guilt precedes all of the institutions and religions which maintain and perpetuate it. Guilt is a false concept...an insane notion taken way too seriously. Since guilt is a false foundation, this world is built "upon the sand". And it will fall.
On the other hand, a truth seeking religion will distinquish between the concept of guilt and actual innocence by looking beyond appearances. The body itself is an appearance directly connected to the concept of guilt. If there were no such concept, there would be no such self-concept as "man". Without guilt held in mind as having value, the body would also not have value, and would literally disappear from the sight of your minds eye.
Quote from Gringinho:
You might have your own personal religion and beliefs which you have built throughout your life. I would never force my views on anyone, and I hope you don't have the necessity of doing so either. I would probably literally kick your ass if you tried that on me.
The reason the world still seems to persist in anyone's experience is because I do not, the Holy Spirit does not force his views on anyone. That is because everyone is considered an
equal will, even though the expression of personhood is a false "doupleganger" type will. It was Christ's will to express a false will, and this will is respected by the Father and the Holy Spirit which is saving/has saved the Son. This is why it is imperative that the world be voluntarily released from your own valuation of it...if you are to be saved from the concept of time and all it has to offer.
Quote from Gringinho:
Oh, one more thing - seeing as many (most? all?) your posts have been made in the "Politics & Religion" forum ... are you ZZZzzzzzzz' evil twin brother? What is your purpose on Elitetrader.com?
My purpose is the same as yours: To share everything I know about the "market" free of charge.
I specialize in brokering the ultimate, long-term trade, which exchanges this world for the ownership of all of reality. It's really a no-brainer: Everything for nothing. However, the world is not yet percieved as nothing to you, so the exchange would seem to "cost" you something. As long as there seems to be a price for reality, it cannot be brought to your awareness because there is no such concept of paying for anything when everyone - Christ - has everything without limit. I offer a comparison that you may have a choice. Until you have a comparison, you have no choice but to support the concept of guilt.
Jesus
