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Does Israel have the firepower to wipe Iran off the map?
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Quote from Madison:
simplistic drivel.
who, exactly, is "they" that haven't adequately "condemned" the "wackos"? and where, exactly, are these "wackos," for that matter? can you produce any evidence to back your wild allegations of nuclear intent by these "wackos"?
ANS. The evidence you seek may be a mushroom cloud rising over a major city in Israel or the US. In the new era of preemptive warfare dictated by the existence of WMD's Israel and the US are taking the necessary steps to plan for preempting this from ever happening. This is not simplistic drivel as you suggest. It is job 1 for the most powerful nation on Earth right now.
you identify yourself as an american - there are many thousands of americans that subscribe to a literal interpretation OF THE BIBLE!, a document full of violence and exhortation of the murder of infidels -- have "the americans" condemned these BIBLE! "wackos"? doesn't your non-yellowbelly leader, ostensibly in control of the largest nuclear arsenal on Earth, quote THE BIBLE! in political speeches? has he condemned the "wackos"?
ANS. There are very few American Christians that want to exterminate another sovereign nation. We follow the dictates of the NEW Testament, not the Old Testament as you have quoted. We would not wipe Iran off the map either. If we attack Iran we would probably use the plan that is circulating in the Pentagon which would bomb about 1500 targets with aircraft and cruise missiles over a week or so and destroy Iran's military infrastructure as well as its potential nuclear sites. We would not likely deploy ground troops and almost certainly not use any nuclear weapons. If we neutralize Iran soon, we won't have to use tactical nukes to destroy their underground centrifuges.
would a lack of such condemnation sanction preemptive war by some non-yellowbelly tough guy halfway around the globe?
ANS. The very threat of nuclear attack by Iran or someone they could deliver nukes to would be enough sanction to attack them if diplomacy fails. Unfortunately, diplomacy does not work well with fanatical Jihadists. They would rather die than compromise their beliefs. I think we are seeing the opening years of battle between 2 belief systems for the control of the World - Christianity and Islam. This conflict has been brewing for centuries. Stay tuned...
FredBloggs
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jonnie t-bone:
has it occurred to you that iran want nukes cos india, pakistan and israel have them - not to mention the usa.
both israel and usa want iran put out, so iran wants to defend themselves. i can understand that. can you?
why do we let israel have nukes but not iran? isnt israel just as much a threat to world peace (but not to the west) as iran?
you say this is a war between christianity and islam. i can not agree with this as a christian (though not a very good one!). it is a battle between western greed for oil and islam. greed has little to do with christianity as it happens.
lets not forget what happened in iraq. where were the wmds? would it surprise you, that after being israels puppet and bombing iran, the usa found out that the nuke capability of iran was in fact next to zero, and it was all just chest beating to warn off israel - just like saddams threats and claims were just chest beating and no real threat existed.
are you happy to kill thousands of INNOCENT WOMEN AND CHILDREN based on more FALSE bush 'intelligence' and lies?
im not. but then i dont believe everything the neo-cons spout. do you?
has it occurred to you that iran want nukes cos india, pakistan and israel have them - not to mention the usa.
both israel and usa want iran put out, so iran wants to defend themselves. i can understand that. can you?
why do we let israel have nukes but not iran? isnt israel just as much a threat to world peace (but not to the west) as iran?
you say this is a war between christianity and islam. i can not agree with this as a christian (though not a very good one!). it is a battle between western greed for oil and islam. greed has little to do with christianity as it happens.
lets not forget what happened in iraq. where were the wmds? would it surprise you, that after being israels puppet and bombing iran, the usa found out that the nuke capability of iran was in fact next to zero, and it was all just chest beating to warn off israel - just like saddams threats and claims were just chest beating and no real threat existed.
are you happy to kill thousands of INNOCENT WOMEN AND CHILDREN based on more FALSE bush 'intelligence' and lies?
im not. but then i dont believe everything the neo-cons spout. do you?
Quote from FredBloggs:
jonnie t-bone:
has it occurred to you that iran want nukes cos india, pakistan and israel have them - not to mention the usa.
both israel and usa want iran put out, so iran wants to defend themselves. i can understand that. can you?
why do we let israel have nukes but not iran? isnt israel just as much a threat to world peace (but not to the west) as iran?
you say this is a war between christianity and islam. i can not agree with this as a christian (though not a very good one!). it is a battle between western greed for oil and islam. greed has little to do with christianity as it happens.
lets not forget what happened in iraq. where were the wmds? would it surprise you, that after being israels puppet and bombing iran, the usa found out that the nuke capability of iran was in fact next to zero, and it was all just chest beating to warn off israel - just like saddams threats and claims were just chest beating and no real threat existed.
are you happy to kill thousands of INNOCENT WOMEN AND CHILDREN based on more FALSE bush 'intelligence' and lies?
im not. but then i dont believe everything the neo-cons spout. do you?
Fred, do you just keep getting dumber? Stay away from the microwave mate.
Read it and weep, LoZZER, As reported on MSNBC on April, 18th:
Recent statements by the Palestinian government, Iran and Syria, including one by Hamas on Monday defending the suicide bombing, âare clear declarations of war, and I urge each and every one of you to listen carefully and take them at face value,â said Israelâs U.N. Ambassador Dan Gillerman.
âA dark cloud is looming above our region, and it is metastasizing as a result of the statements and actions by leaders of Iran, Syria, and the newly elected government of the Palestinian Authority,â Gillerman warned.
Gillerman told the Security Council that Mondayâs âhorrific act of terrorism as well as the ones that preceded it are the direct result of the new axis of terrorâ comprising Iran and Syria and the âterrorist organizations they have been harboring, nurturing, financing and supporting, namely Hamas and Hezbollah.â
Gillerman said recent statements by Hamas leaders refusing to recognize Israel, and by Iranâs president who said Saturday that Israel is âon the road to being eliminated,â represent âthe stated goal of this axis of terror.â
Mansour urged the Security Council and the international community to condemn the Israeli attacks and take measures to halt the latest escalation.
He said âdouble standardsâ in which the international community remains silent as Israelis kill Palestinian civilians while the Palestinians are punished by economic and political isolation for democratically electing their government are unacceptable.
âAny calls on the Palestinian side will only be viewed as hypocritical if they are not met by equal pressure on the occupying power to put an end to its harsh military measures, to end its subjugation of the Palestinian people and accept their rights to live in freedom and security, under the protection of international law,â Mansour warned.
Israel warns of new 'world war'
Gillerman urged the international community and the Security Council âto take swift actions to try and prevent the next murder which is already on its way.â
Since January, he said, 11 major suicide terrorist attacks have been prevented and 90 potential suicide bombers have been arrested.
While Israel regrets any loss of life, it will not sit idly by and allow âhuman bombsâ or rockets to penetrate the country and kill Israelis â and he asked whether every country wouldnât do the same to eliminate a similar danger.
âThe danger I must add, not just to Israel but also to the whole free world, and to civilization as we know it, as this axis of evil and terror sows the seeds of the first world war of the 21st century,â Gillerman said
Recent statements by the Palestinian government, Iran and Syria, including one by Hamas on Monday defending the suicide bombing, âare clear declarations of war, and I urge each and every one of you to listen carefully and take them at face value,â said Israelâs U.N. Ambassador Dan Gillerman.
âA dark cloud is looming above our region, and it is metastasizing as a result of the statements and actions by leaders of Iran, Syria, and the newly elected government of the Palestinian Authority,â Gillerman warned.
Gillerman told the Security Council that Mondayâs âhorrific act of terrorism as well as the ones that preceded it are the direct result of the new axis of terrorâ comprising Iran and Syria and the âterrorist organizations they have been harboring, nurturing, financing and supporting, namely Hamas and Hezbollah.â
Gillerman said recent statements by Hamas leaders refusing to recognize Israel, and by Iranâs president who said Saturday that Israel is âon the road to being eliminated,â represent âthe stated goal of this axis of terror.â
Mansour urged the Security Council and the international community to condemn the Israeli attacks and take measures to halt the latest escalation.
He said âdouble standardsâ in which the international community remains silent as Israelis kill Palestinian civilians while the Palestinians are punished by economic and political isolation for democratically electing their government are unacceptable.
âAny calls on the Palestinian side will only be viewed as hypocritical if they are not met by equal pressure on the occupying power to put an end to its harsh military measures, to end its subjugation of the Palestinian people and accept their rights to live in freedom and security, under the protection of international law,â Mansour warned.
Israel warns of new 'world war'
Gillerman urged the international community and the Security Council âto take swift actions to try and prevent the next murder which is already on its way.â
Since January, he said, 11 major suicide terrorist attacks have been prevented and 90 potential suicide bombers have been arrested.
While Israel regrets any loss of life, it will not sit idly by and allow âhuman bombsâ or rockets to penetrate the country and kill Israelis â and he asked whether every country wouldnât do the same to eliminate a similar danger.
âThe danger I must add, not just to Israel but also to the whole free world, and to civilization as we know it, as this axis of evil and terror sows the seeds of the first world war of the 21st century,â Gillerman said
Quote from ZZZzzzzzzz:
Thanks for the opinion, but I asked for information about whether or not Israel had presented what you claim to the UN....
Quote from Madison:
[a few passages regarding "infidels" -- a google search will show you hundreds more: [/B]
Just wanted to make clear that the Bible verses presented were written to the Isrealites about the Isrealites. It was stating that they took a covenant with God and if they were to break that covenant than they could be put to death. Translated into the new testiment - without the baptism and repentance of sin and living for God - the wages of sin are death (you will not goto Heaven).
It is not stating that the Isrealites should go kill the asyrians and babylonians or any other group because they did not belive in the God of Isreal.
carry on.
You must of missed Irans speak...where he offered money to anyone or group that would send a missle into Israel and stated that it was his intention to remove Israel off the face of the map etc...sounds like a declaration of war..
What about those innocent persons?
They ? should take him out and his clonies ...I am also personally concerned about Pakistan,India,China having the bomb...
these cultures still to date have many cases where they kill young girls at birth because of gender?
Very scary everywhere.
w
What about those innocent persons?
They ? should take him out and his clonies ...I am also personally concerned about Pakistan,India,China having the bomb...
these cultures still to date have many cases where they kill young girls at birth because of gender?
Very scary everywhere.
w
Quote from FredBloggs:
jonnie t-bone:
has it occurred to you that iran want nukes cos india, pakistan and israel have them - not to mention the usa.
both israel and usa want iran put out, so iran wants to defend themselves. i can understand that. can you?
why do we let israel have nukes but not iran? isnt israel just as much a threat to world peace (but not to the west) as iran?
you say this is a war between christianity and islam. i can not agree with this as a christian (though not a very good one!). it is a battle between western greed for oil and islam. greed has little to do with christianity as it happens.
lets not forget what happened in iraq. where were the wmds? would it surprise you, that after being israels puppet and bombing iran, the usa found out that the nuke capability of iran was in fact next to zero, and it was all just chest beating to warn off israel - just like saddams threats and claims were just chest beating and no real threat existed.
are you happy to kill thousands of INNOCENT WOMEN AND CHILDREN based on more FALSE bush 'intelligence' and lies?
im not. but then i dont believe everything the neo-cons spout. do you?