Fixed Does Elite Trader stand behind this post ?

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From one of your moderators :

TGregg said:
Don't forget the standard death threats and bounties from the usual suspects. Why the fuck any white boy would be a cop in any place where nogs commit crimes is beyond me. Some nog attacks you in your cop car, tries to steal your weapon and engages in a life-or-death struggle with you produces a lose-lose situation. Kill the perp and you and yours live life on the run even if the whole event was recorded.
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Someone needs to explain to me what the merits of the labels "nogs" and "white boy" are from this post. To me, this post just seems profoundly racist in nature and unsuitable material. But Elite Trader can explain why it's suitable and appropriate in today's world to talk this way.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding what a "nog" is ? Perhaps a definition of this term and how it can appropriately be used in civilized converation can be mentioned.

ps Ok, I looked it up on an urban dictionary and this is what I got :

" Synonym for racial slur nigger. Derived from nigger, leading to nignog, leading to noggins, and shortened to nogs.
 
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And why would Baron stand behind anyone's posts about anything on ET?
It's an Internet chat website you dolt. People can say whatever they want and it doesn't reflect on him in any way whatsoever.

You liberals get your panties wet about every little thing that offends you. Then instead of doing what a normal person would do...STOP VISITING ELITE TRADER...you want everyone's freedom of speech silenced so you won't get offended.

You offend me, fuck off.
 
dbphoenix said:
One would expect moderators to be held to a higher standard. Otherwise, what is their function? On what do they base their judgements?
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I think this is an unfortunate oversight on Baron's part. Aside from the bigotry in P&R, ET is a pretty decent place to visit to pass the time, shoot the breeze and occasionally pick up a thing or two. And I really like the new functionality. But the hostility and bigotry in P&R...picture a really comfortable pair of decent shoes with shit on the sole that you just can't quite seem to scrape off.

As an aside, I'm surprised that the sponsors are apparently okay with this.
 
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Clubber Lang said:
And why would Baron stand behind anyone's posts about anything on ET?
It's an Internet chat website you dolt. People can say whatever they want and it doesn't reflect on him in any way whatsoever.

You liberals get your panties wet about every little thing that offends you. Then instead of doing what a normal person would do...STOP VISITING ELITE TRADER...you want everyone's freedom of speech silenced so you won't get offended.

You offend me, fuck off.
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It has nothing to do with liberals or conservatives; it has to do with moderators. We expect officials, elected or otherwise, to exercise at least some discretion. On the rare occasions when sponsors post to the P&R Forum, they are at least bright enough to avoid posting bigoted remarks. If moderators want to do so, given that they can't be ignored, they should use aliases.
 
Frederick Foresight said:
I think this is an unfortunate oversight on Baron's part. Aside from the bigotry in P&R, ET is a pretty decent place to visit to pass the time, shoot the breeze and occasionally pick up a thing or two. And I really like the new functionality. But the hostility and bigotry in P&R...picture a really comfortable pair of decent shoes with shit on the sole that you just can't quite seem to scrape off.

As an aside, I'm surprised that the sponsors are apparently okay with this.
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Wrb explained the history of all this quite well. One can only imagine -- if one wasn't here -- what things were like up here before the P&R Forum was instituted. Unfortunately, conditions like this don't remain static, and the increasing virulence of the P&R has begun to filter up into the content threads. I have no idea what should be done about this. Other sites appear to get along just fine without such forums. Fortunately it's not my problem. I have the option to Ignore. But, as I've pointed out, this doesn't work with moderators. Asking them to post in P&R using aliases does not appear to me to be a particularly onerous request.
 
I remember some years ago, when outright bigoted posts were (often) deleted, and I think some offending posters were actually banned. I don't know if it was because of the incessantly bigoted posts they were writing, but I remember hoping that was the reason.
 
dbphoenix said:
...I have no idea what should be done about this. Other sites appear to get along just fine without such forums. Fortunately it's not my problem. I have the option to Ignore. But, as I've pointed out, this doesn't work with moderators. Asking them to post in P&R using aliases does not appear to me to be a particularly onerous request.
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Yes, I suppose an alias would work in that case. I just can't imagine why anyone would want to work with someone of that nature. Especially when they don't have to. Just being candid.
 
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