Does anyone else feel sleepy while trading?

Recently I saw on TV that the brain needs 4 hours to recover, and that we sleep in 90 minute cycles. So, after the 4 hours, if you wake up within a 90 minute cycle you'll likely feel the need for more sleep. But if you wake up near the end on one of the cycles, you'll feel rested. I've experimented with this a little and it seems to be true.

It's very true and I have exactly the same experience. But to last through the day, anything less than 5 cycles won't do. You can do 2 cycle, get up and feel okay but after 6 hours you'll be tired.
 
There are 5 cycles and not everyone cycles the same. Some have shorter cycles and some don't go through all the cycles REM being the last. Dreams are in deep sleep right before REM. Number one food for a Human is sleep, it doesn't matter how healthy a lifestyle you live if you are sleep deprived your health will go south and fast. peace. No I didn't google this and it might be wrong,,,all of it. lol.
 
No I don't have health problems and I am not overweight. That's me in my picture. I am skinny.
I don't have the time to exercise or eat breakfast in the morning. The market opens @ 6:30 am. There is barely enough time for anything in the morning. But I will try to have breakfast and see how I feel.

I think I found the problem: you are on the west coast! I was recently in Europe, and it was great having the U.S. market open at 3:30pm... total dream for someone like me who prefers to get up at 9:30am and go to sleep at 2:00am. I'll work any schedule my work requires of me.. but I must say trading the U.S. markets while in Europe was awesome. You could take all morning and afternoon to think about what you want to do... market doesn't open until 3:30pm.

Do your natural sleep patterns want you to sleep past 6:30am? I've had to work jobs where I have to get up at 5:45-6:00am, and yes that makes me sleepy! For those jobs I'm fine if I'm moving around a lot. But if I have to get up at 6:00am and then stay at a desk, that can make me tired.

The east coast isn't that bad. Plus, New Hampshire and Florida have no capital gains tax. Would you enjoy sleeping in three extra hours... maybe east coast!
 
I would say that I have the opposite feeling, after having traded I cannot asleep.
same here, and its an evil circle because i soon get bored and start trading again!
i havent slept for a year now, turns out i didnt need to.
 
There have been some great tips here! I hope you're getting more sleep now and feeling better!

One thing that helps me is to just do some brief exercise. I have a little rebounder (mini trampoline) next to my desk, and running in place on it or jumping for a minute can really wake me up (plus, it's fun!). It's really important to get up and move at least once an hour anyway, and a couple minutes of exercise every hour really adds up. You could even just walk in place while you trade, sit on an exercise ball so you're using good posture, keep free weights near your desk, etc.

Sometimes you just need a short nap--even 15 minutes can make a big difference. One cool thing about naps is that they are basically worth double what you get at night. So, if you take a 30 minute nap, it's as if you slept an extra hour the night before. I don't have sources for this, but they may be out there--just something to perhaps keep in mind. :)

I would also focus on nutrient-rich foods. You could do a green smoothie for breakfast, as that's quick and easy, and there are several supplements that can help as well, such as fish oil and vitamin D3, for example.

Good luck, and I hope your trading is going well! :)
 
sometimes I try not to trade when I cannot get fully concentrated. Cold shower and a short walk can be often helpful.
 
Some ideas....
 
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. One cool thing about naps is that they are basically worth double what you get at night. So, if you take a 30 minute nap, it's as if you slept an extra hour the night before
Yeah, sure. So why bother with sleeping 8 hrs...just have 4hrs of napping during the day!
 
Yeah, sure. So why bother with sleeping 8 hrs...just have 4hrs of napping during the day!

Ha! I know, right? My dad learned this when he was flying off aircraft carriers as a Marine during Vietnam. Their sleep was often interrupted, and the men called their afternoon naps "fighter naps." Again, I don't have a source for it, but if it was a good enough theory for the "Marines," it's definitely good enough for me! :)
 
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