Does anyone actually believe in God or are they just afraid...

Problem is, that's not the beginning of the universe. Big difference, rather infinitely big difference.

Only by rather perversely supplanting the word gravity with the word Creator do you get evidence of a Creator.

"Because there is a law such as gravity, the universe can and will create itself from nothing." Stephen Hawking
Hi STUpid! Long time, no see :D

Speaking of Stephen Hawking, he thinks the universe has a beginning:
The conclusion of this lecture is that the universe has not existed forever. Rather, the universe, and time itself, had a beginning in the Big Bang, about 15 billion years ago.
http://www.hawking.org.uk/the-beginning-of-time.html
 
Rebellion against tyrants is obedience to God.
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...Ezra Stiles (1727–1795), the Calvinist president of Yale College, was curious about Benjamin Franklin (1706–1790) and his faith. In 1790, he asked the nation's senior statesman if he would commit his religious beliefs to paper. Franklin agreed. He was nearing the end of his life - he died six weeks later - and possibly believed this was as good a time as any to summarize the religious creed by which he lived.

"Here is my Creed," Franklin wrote to Stiles. "I believe in one God, Creator of the Universe. That He governs it by His Providence. That he ought to be worshipped. That the most acceptable Service we render to him, is doing Good to his other Children. That the Soul of Man is immortal, and will be treated with Justice in another Life respecting its Conduct in this ... As for Jesus of Nazareth ... I think the system of Morals and Religion as he left them to us, the best the World ever saw ... but I have ... some Doubts to his Divinity; though' it is a Question I do not dogmatism upon, having never studied it, and think it is needless to busy myself with it now, where I expect soon an Opportunity of knowing the Truth with less Trouble." ...
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...as far as I'm aware, there's no law which disallows faith from shutting his own eye to reason.
 
wow you are returning to that deception. We have done threads on this where you refuse to put that quote in context... so here is the paper... which explains that quote.
in the highly speculative world of top down cosmology in which the constant sort of chose their histories... you can say gravity created the universe...

but in the universe we know... the universe looks designed.



http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/hep-th/pdf/0602/0602091v2.pdf

Here hawking explains that if you work with the standard model that we have the universe is carefully fine tuned or you have to invoke the notion of eternal inflation (infinite universes.)


1.
In fact if one does adopt a bottom-up approach to cosmology, one is immediately
led to an essentially classical framework, in which one loses all ability to explain
cosmology’s central question - why our universe is the way it is. In particular a
bottom-up approach to cosmology either requires one to postulate an initial state of
the universe that is carefully fine-tuned [10] - as if prescribed by an outside agency or it requires one to invoke the notion of eternal inflation [11], which prevents one
from predicting what a typical observer would see.



Here - Hawking disabuses Stu of his other bullshit. We see Hawking clearly speak of alternate universes.

2. page 2.
Here we put forward a different approach to cosmology in the string landscape,
based not on the classical idea of a single history for the universe but on the quantum
sum over histories [12]. We argue that the quantum origin of the universe naturally
leads to a framework for cosmology where amplitudes for alternative histories of the
universe are computed with boundary conditions at late times only. We thus envision
a set of alternative universes in the landscape, with amplitudes given by the no
boundary path integral [13].










Problem is, that's not the beginning of the universe. Big difference, rather infinitely big difference.



Only by rather perversely supplanting the word gravity with the word Creator do you get evidence of a Creator.

"Because there is a law such as gravity, the universe can and will create itself from nothing." Stephen Hawking
 
starting at 1:55 explains that his answer is predicated on the landscape idea... which is another name for the multiverse.

As I said before look at the video I posted... he explains it all perfectly well.


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starting at 1:55 explains that his answer is predicated on the landscape idea... which is another name for the multiverse.

As I said before look at the video I posted... he explains it all perfectly well.


He does not believe what you believe jem, no matter if you post that video 1000 more times. He does not believe in a creator so you can't use him as an argument for a creator.
 
I keep telling you... he does not believe in a Creator... but he states that one of the explanations for why our universe appears so incredibly fine tuned is a creator.
Just look at how he explains the fine tuning at around 6 minutes on the video. (he explains the finest tuning at around 5 minutes.)


why is it so hard to understand that point for you? He does not need to believe what I believe... I am just letting him explain our universe is very finely tuned for life.

How you wish to explain that tuning is up to you. He tells you, you have 3 to 4 choices.


He does not believe what you believe jem, no matter if you post that video 1000 more times. He does not believe in a creator so you can't use him as an argument for a creator.
 
I keep telling you... he does not believe in a Creator... but he states that one of the explanations for why our universe appears so incredibly fine tuned is a creator.
Just look at how he explains the fine tuning at around 6 minutes on the video. (he explains the finest tuning at around 5 minutes.)


why is it so hard to understand that point for you? He does not need to believe what I believe... I am just letting him explain our universe is very finely tuned for life.

How you wish to explain that tuning is up to you. He tells you, you have 3 to 4 choices.

Ok, and that possible creator is possibly a leprechaun.
 
sure a leprechaun who could think the universe into existence.

and note on your free will question... since time started with the big bang... and if the Leprechaun is outside of time... then he would possibly know everything but still allow you free will in this universe.

Ok, and that possible creator is possibly a leprechaun.
 
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