Does anyone actually believe in God or are they just afraid...

I still can't believe these two atheist trolls are bullshitting about basic science.

Virtually all of science state the big bang is the beginning of our universe... our universe had a beginning... it did not exist forever. How you two athiest trolls could be arguing that point is mystifying. You two are giving atheism a bad rap here. non troll atheists promote good science... they don't troll out bullshit just because science points to a beginning.


You have a problem with basic logic don't you? Explains your GW position also. I'll make it simple. They have not found the beginning of the universe. No matter how you want to interperate it. Therefore nothing can be said about what went before. The fact that it may have been in a different state does not mean it did not exist. The fact that it is likely that something did exist before and at the start of the current iteration of the universe means no God is needed to create it. There is certainly no evidence of God in anything after the big bang.
 
more strawman leftist bullshit I did not say most scientists attribute the universe to a creator... I stated most scientists if not virtually all believe our universe had a big bang... watch the susskind interview... he explains one of the explanations for the fine tuning is a Creator.

as one of the founders of string theory (and he is an agnostic) you would expect him to prefer the multiverse explanation and he does... but he truthfully states a Creator is one option.



Most of the top cosmologists - you know, the people who know the most about how it happened - are atheists. And the higher level of knowledge and expertise in the area of the natural sciences, the more likely that the person is an atheist. In short, the more someone knows about nature, the less they attribute it to "God" or a similar kind of creator. To say that most of the top scientists attribute the universe to a creator is laughably wrong, but par for the course for jem.
 
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I may have overstated when I said most top cosmologists are atheists, but not by much. researching...
 
Disbelief in God and immortality among NAS biological scientists was 65.2% and 69.0%, respectively, and among NAS physical scientists it was 79.0% and 76.3%. Most of the rest were agnostics on both issues, with few believers. We found the highest percentage of belief among NAS mathematicians (14.3% in God, 15.0% in immortality). Biological scientists had the lowest rate of belief (5.5% in God, 7.1% in immortality), with physicists and astronomers slightly higher (7.5% in God, 7.5% in immortality).

http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/sci_relig.htm




Only 7.5% of physicists and astronomers believe in God.

For jem to say that they would attribute the universe to creator is absurdly wrong.
 
another troll leftist trick...
create a strawman - knock it down.
say you are correct.
create a false consensus (disbelief in God and Immortality... wtf? how did that come up )
pretend there is no argument with what you say.


change the subject to something stupid when evidence of a Creator is mentioned.

Disbelief in God and immortality among NAS biological scientists was 65.2% and 69.0%, respectively, and among NAS physical scientists it was 79.0% and 76.3%. Most of the rest were agnostics on both issues, with few believers. We found the highest percentage of belief among NAS mathematicians (14.3% in God, 15.0% in immortality). Biological scientists had the lowest rate of belief (5.5% in God, 7.1% in immortality), with physicists and astronomers slightly higher (7.5% in God, 7.5% in immortality).

http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/sci_relig.htm




Only 7.5% of physicists and astronomers believe in God.

For jem to say that they would attribute the universe to creator is absurdly wrong.
 
totally irrelevant to this thread... but that is a lot of believers compared to that crap survey you posted in the past. I don't expect you will be retracting your troll statements any time soon.
I told you that survey was b.s.

that 7.5% percent study is obviously crap. it only had a 50% return rate and if I recall our prior arguments the way it was sent out was very questionable with implicit threats.



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I may have overstated when I said most top cosmologists are atheists, but not by much. researching...
 
more strawman leftist bullshit I did not say most scientists attribute the universe to a creator... I stated most scientists if not virtually all believe our universe had a big bang... watch the susskind interview... he explains one of the explanations for the fine tuning is a Creator.

as one of the founders of string theory (and he is an agnostic) you would expect him to prefer the multiverse explanation and he does... but he truthfully states a Creator is one option.


Bullshit. You were trying in your weasily lawyerly way to inject God into it by misrepresenting what the scientists are saying,,,,as usual.
 
I can imagine an epic sci-fi novel, or series, an immense tragedy of course, inspired by those mini big bangs scientists have created.
 
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