Doctors refuse to treat the unvaccinated -- Welcome to the new ethical minefield

its fucking data moron from the best data set we have...
... read it... understand it.

and its common sense... you moron.

The vaccines rely on our immune systems idiot...
Of course there would be a strong chance our immune system would be better than the vaccines which stimulate the immune systems.

Its basic science... mRNA tech is new... may years down the road they could stimulate the natural immune system perfectly... but as of now they did a good job... but not as good as nature.


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Finally moron.. although the results overwhelm these issues...
there is the issue of selection... and other biases...


You have read this no where but from my genius mind.
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a. Those with really bad immune systems who got hit with the virus are dead.
b. And some of those future dead wind up in the vaccinated group (but had been protected by luck or personal vigilance so of course that group will hurt the vaxxed group)
c. The vaxxed group also gets to the benefit of those with strong immune systems who wer not going to get hurt by any of these biases so far.)

Therefore unless we are comparing control group to vax group... for instance high risk vs low risk... vaxxed and naive- previously infected never infected
most of the data we see is not that useful for determining efficacy.

gwb-trading said:
Once again you are pushing a non-peer reviewed pre-print study while actually attempting to push a false narrative from the study's results -- which actually states that people who had Covid need one dose of the vaccine for best protection.
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Welcome to the world of rationed care -- thanks to the unvaccinated.

Idaho allows hospitals overwhelmed by COVID patients to start rationing health care
https://theweek.com/us/1004972/idah...covid-patients-to-start-rationing-health-care

Amid a surge in new coronavirus cases and hospitalizations that are overwhelming medical facilities, the Idaho Department of Health and Wellness on Thursday announced that the state is experiencing a hospital resource crisis, and strained hospitals are allowed to ration health care.

Under crisis standards of care, hospitals are able to determine how to prioritize care based on patients doctors believe have the best chances of survival. "In other words, someone who is otherwise healthy and would recover more rapidly may get treated or have access to a ventilator before someone who is not likely to recover," the Idaho Department of Health and Welfare said.

It's a "dire" situation, Idaho Department of Health and Welfare Director Dave Jeppesen said in a statement. "We don't have enough resources to adequately treat the patients in our hospitals, whether you are there for COVID-19 or a heart attack or because of a car accident."

Idaho saw the second largest per capita increase in the number of hospitalized coronavirus patients over the last week, second to West Virginia, data compiled by The Washington Post shows. The highly contagious Delta variant has been fueling the surge in cases, especially in areas with low vaccination rates.
 
Seems GWB and Jem have still not gotten a room, but @Bugenhagen Dude! WTF!

"If say Trump was caught for killing his lovechild and necrophilia with the corpse while Ivanka watched, ..."

That was from a reply you made in this thread 10 days ago. And I think you know I have a very audio/visual imagination. I cannot un-see this now in my head. Thanks a ton, you jerk! :-)
 
Overnight said:
Seems GWB and Jem have still not gotten a room, but @Bugenhagen Dude! WTF!

"If say Trump was caught for killing his lovechild and necrophilia with the corpse while Ivanka watched, ..."

That was from a reply you made in this thread 10 days ago. And I think you know I have a very audio/visual imagination. I cannot un-see this now in my head. Thanks a ton, you jerk! :)
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Its the acting lessons, you have to put your mind in the scene. You should try some am-dram,. halfway there :)
 
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