Doctors refuse to treat the unvaccinated -- Welcome to the new ethical minefield

[userque]

Indeed, apples to oranges. When it comes to denying healthcare to someone, because of a personal choice, leftists defend it as the right thing to do.

But if a baker denies a stupid cake, then all hell breaks lose. That was exactly my point.

Priorities... Go figure.

To even begin to understand, or to make any comparisons, you have to know the reasons why 'they' want to deny/restrict healthcare.

Do you understand 'their' arguments and circumstances for restricting healthcare?

 

[NeoTrader]

To even begin to understand, or to make any comparisons, you have to know the reasons why 'they' want to deny/restrict healthcare.

Do you understand 'their' arguments and circumstances for restricting healthcare?

You seem to have some trouble understanding what I wrote. I'll try to explain it one more time: I agree that they should not obligated to provide service to people they don't want provide a service to and I couldn't care less why they deny the service, excluding the two situations I mentioned in the first post.

My point is that nobody should be forced to provide any service(once again, excluding the two situations in the case of physicians) and people shouldn't even have to explain why they are denying it. The service is theirs to provide and it is their choice to provide it.

What I pointed out is the inconsistency of leftists who think this is justifiable, but become outraged when a baker denies to bake a stupid cake. In both cases, it should be simply their choice. The problem here is the double standard. Simple.

If you can't still see my point after this, no problem. I don't really care.

 

[userque]

My point is that nobody should be forced to provide any service(once again, excluding the two situations in the case of physicians) and people shouldn't even have to explain why they are denying it. The service is theirs to provide and it is their choice to provide it.

What I pointed out is the inconsistency of leftists who think this is justifiable, but become outraged when a baker denies to bake a stupid cake. In both cases, it should be simply their choice. The problem here is the double standard. Simple.

Reasons matter.

For example, a vendor can deny service because one is not wearing a shirt. But a vendor, generally, cannot deny service because of one's race, religion, other Title VII reasons, age, etc.

You aren't registering that the reasons matter--or at least given consideration. You don't even believe that a reason even needs to be articulated.

This is why you are confused.

 

[Market_Diver]

I wonder what these leftist doctors would do when an unvaccinated black women is to be admitted, considering the fact that blacks are the most unvaxxed population.

PS: I noticed the earlier mentions of unvaxxed blacks were ignore by the leftists on this thread. Let's see if they are going to respond to mine.

 

[NeoTrader]

Reasons matter.

For example, a vendor can deny service because one is not wearing a shirt. But a vendor, generally, cannot deny service because of one's race, religion, other Title VII reasons, age, etc.

You aren't registering that the reasons matter--or at least given consideration. You don't even believe that a reason even needs to be articulated.

This is why you are confused.

Well, to be honest, my hopes that you would get it the second time I explained were not high. Freedom is a completely foreign concept for people on the left( and many on the right, but not as much).

No worries! Have a good one!

 

[vanzandt]

Well, to be honest, my hopes that you would get it the second time I explained were not high. Freedom is a completely foreign concept for people on the left( and many on the right, but not as much).

No worries! Have a good one!

I swear, between @userque and @UsualName .... you've heard of tunnel-vision right(?)... well I'm not a physician like you, but I think there exists a previously undefined condition where tunnel-vision transcends to a cerebral level. These two have it. Give it a name and maybe you can get an award or something in the doctor circles.

Edit:
On second thought it does have a name.
The extreme left.

 

[smallfil]

These petty, extreme liberal doctors will one day find, that they are out of a job and nobody cares. Karma will come as it has for those who needlessly, deliberately, inflict harm on others.

 

[userque]

Well, to be honest, my hopes that you would get it the second time I explained were not high. Freedom is a completely foreign concept for people on the left( and many on the right, but not as much).

No worries! Have a good one!

Regardless, denying a service when it is illegal to do so, is not the same as denying a service when it is not illegal to do so.

 

[gwb-trading]

Indeed, apples to oranges. When it comes to denying healthcare to someone, because of a personal choice, leftists defend it as the right thing to do.

But if a baker denies a stupid cake, then all hell breaks lose. That was exactly my point.

Priorities... Go figure.

The bakery owner refused to provide service based on their values aligned with religion.
Non-emergency doctors refused to provide service based on their values aligned with serving public health.

IMO you either support the right of both businesses to deny service, or you believe neither have the right to deny service. All or none.

Otherwise I will say that it is idiotic for businesses to deny service to individuals based on "politics" -- it is simply poor business.

 

[userque]

When you refuse the vax, then you 'assume the risk.'

People that assume the risk should not be allowed to clog up medical resources, and prevent others requiring medical services from receiving them.

If you assume the risk, you should be willing to let that risk play out.