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Dobbs: Keep religion out of politics
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Quote from fhl:
Not according to the bible it's not. The bible says that 'these words are spirit, and they are life'.
Sorry. You can argue all you want that 'works' is all you need, but the bible says that "without faith, it is impossible to please God".
So, you can have faith in God and sell your daughter as a sex slave/pleasure woman... will that please God?
Quote from vhehn:
you make my point. does it even matter to you that his healings have been followed up on and none were ever found to be legit?
when you defend lies and fraud as long as it is in the name of god you prove the skeptics right in that religion does not care about truth.
I don't know what you are talking about when you say 'none were ever found to be legit'. This is in direct contradiction to what I have personally heard medical doctors say. I think I will take their word for it instead of some Mary Mapes 60 minutes type producer of some so called news show. sorry.
Were the people in the bible healed like it says they were? We're back to square one where you just don't believe anything the bible has to say. And by the way, the bible says 'thy word is truth'.
Quote from fhl:
I don't know what you are talking about when you say 'none were ever found to be legit'. This is in direct contradiction to what I have personally heard medical doctors say. I think I will take their word for it instead of some Mary Mapes 60 minutes type producer of some so called news show. sorry.
Were the people in the bible healed like it says they were? We're back to square one where you just don't believe anything the bible has to say. And by the way, the bible says 'thy word is truth'.
i challenge you to provide any proof you can find from any credible medical doctor to prove your statement that benny hinn ever cured anybody of anything.
here is what some other christians think of old benny:
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False Doctrines/benny_hinn.htm
Quote from vhehn:
i challenge you to provide any proof you can find from any credible medical doctor to prove your statement that benny hinn ever cured anybody of anything.
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False Doctrines/benny_hinn.htm
Jesus heals! got that? I never said Benny Hinn healed anybody of anything. And neither has he ever said it. The bible says 'lay hands on the sick and they shall recover'. If you choose not to believe it , that's your problem.
I have no desire to "prove" to you and the writer of the article you provided that the bible is true.
Quote from fhl:
Jesus heals! got that? I never said Benny Hinn healed anybody of anything. And neither has he ever said it. The bible says 'lay hands on the sick and they shall recover'. If you choose not to believe it , that's your problem.
if jesus ever healed anybody he never healed through benny. that is my point. you are willing to stoop so low as to defend a proven fraud and a lyer just because you cant take any truth that might show your religion to be less than honest.
even the christian site i posted knows that benny is a fraud but you even deny the truth when it comes from other believers.
http://today.reuters.com/news/artic...RTRUKOC_0_US-UN-SANITATION.xml&src=rss&rpc=22
2.6 billion people lack basic sanitation: U.N. report
you would have us believe it is ok that tv preachers get rich off the money people give to help the poor. here is an article that says billions dont even have clean water to drink.
are we to believe that your god sits up on his throne and sees all these people dying and doesnt lift a finger yet he feels the need to allow benny to get rich stealing money ment to help the poor?
Quote from vhehn:
if jesus ever healed anybody he never healed through benny. that is my point. you are willing to stoop so low as to defend a proven fraud and a lyer just because you cant take any truth that might show your religion to be less than honest.
even the christian site i posted knows that benny is a fraud but you even deny the truth when it comes from other believers.
Where do I even start with you. I gave you the scriptures. Jesus healed and he specifically told us (just check out the last part of Mark), to go and lay hands on the sick and they will recover. The writer of the article said he believed Jesus healed, but not nowadays. This is typical. You either believe Jesus or not. You choose not to and so do many people who profess to be christians. It is not my job to prove to you (and him) that the bible is true. Just like doubting Thomas, you want to see before you will believe. Jesus said "blessed are those who believe without seeing." The choice is yours. Not only do you choose not to, but you resort above to call those who do "less than honest". Sad.
Quote from fhl:
Where do I even start with you. I gave you the scriptures. Jesus healed and he specifically told us (just check out the last part of Mark), to go and lay hands on the sick and they will recover. The writer of the article said he believed Jesus healed, but not nowadays. This is typical. You either believe Jesus or not. You choose not to and so do many people who profess to be christians. It is not my job to prove to you (and him) that the bible is true. Just like doubting Thomas, you want to see before you will believe. Jesus said "blessed are those who believe without seeing." The choice is yours. Not only do you choose not to, but you resort above to call those who do "less than honest". Sad.
here is a simple question. why do you think god allows billions to suffer because of lack of clean water while at the same time he allows\helps benny hinn steal the money that could go to help that suffering?
"He who cannot reason is defenseless; he who fears to reason has a cowardly mind; he who will not reason is willing to be deceived and will deceive all who listen to him."
the nonbeliever vhen said:" 2.6 billion people lack basic sanitation: U.N. report
you would have us believe it is ok that tv preachers get rich off the money people give to help the poor. here is an article that says billions dont even have clean water to drink.
are we to believe that your god sits up on his throne and sees all these people dying and doesnt lift a finger yet he feels the need to allow benny to get rich stealing money ment to help the poor?"
Doesn't lift a finger to help them?
He sent his son to die on the cross to help them. "Jesus became poor, so that you could be rich". What do you want Him to do to prove that it is His will that the poor be provided for? Oh yeah, I almost forgot, you want to 'see it before you believe it'.
you would have us believe it is ok that tv preachers get rich off the money people give to help the poor. here is an article that says billions dont even have clean water to drink.
are we to believe that your god sits up on his throne and sees all these people dying and doesnt lift a finger yet he feels the need to allow benny to get rich stealing money ment to help the poor?"
Doesn't lift a finger to help them?
He sent his son to die on the cross to help them. "Jesus became poor, so that you could be rich". What do you want Him to do to prove that it is His will that the poor be provided for? Oh yeah, I almost forgot, you want to 'see it before you believe it'.