Dobbs: Keep religion out of politics

I am against censure of speech. However if non taxed church funds are being used to pay for advertising, fund raising, money to candidates etc. that is political in nature...that is a different story.

Quote from ratboy88:

were talking about the IRS coming in and deciding what a church can and cant talk about. come on...... that is absurd. that flies in the face of all liberties. the IRS answers to a private foreign corporation.... they have a conflict of interest.
 
Those words about our human rights are not denominational, and have no political nature in them.

Registered tax exempt churches are legal entities, and thus bound to follow the secular laws.

Quote from ratboy88:

our rights are endowed by our creator, these are the words of your secular govt.
 
That you don't see the difference between a church and a trade union, newspaper, business or civic organization demonstrates just how spiritually bankrupt you actually are...

You never hesitate to sink to deeper depths of depravity in your thought process.

Quote from Pabst:

I'm sure I know better than you the history of the Bill of Rights.

Where did I mention or even imply "require" or "tell them"?

A church that endorses political candidates is no different than a trade union, a newspaper, a business or civic organization or any other collective body that seeks to enforce a particular ideology through political means.

An electorate will make decisions based upon it's values, expectations and experiences. If some voters are sectarian then it's reasonable to expect some sectarian ideals to influence decision making. Do you favor a Thought Police now as well?
 
They don't. But the moment the Church files for tax exempt status, they surrender themselves to the tax codes and secular laws.

Quote from fhl:

So, if secular gov't doesn't require churches to tell them what is moral, why do churches need the gov't to tell them what is legal?
 
Why do the faithful as demonstrated by membership in a "church" have any less right to collectively lobby on issues of common importance vis a vis campaigning than any other organization? How is that activity any worse (not that it's up to anyone else to judge) than a newspaper who's in the business of unbiased reporting turning endorser.

Individuals and institutions have rights to peaceful political assembly. It's clear that good folks like you view Christians as a threat to your anti-family agenda of homo marriage and abortion on demand.

Do you favor the employment of human monitors in U.S. Mosques when there's a danger of Islamic clerics urging violence?

Quote from ZZZzzzzzzz:

That you don't see the difference between a church and a trade union, newspaper, business or civic organization demonstrates just how spiritually bankrupt you actually are...

You never hesitate to sink to deeper depths of depravity in your thought process.
 
Quote from Pabst:

Why do the faithful as demonstrated by membership in a "church" have any less right to collectively lobby on issues of common importance vis a vis campaigning than any other organization? How is that activity any worse (not that it's up to anyone else to judge) than a newspaper who's in the business of unbiased reporting turning endorser.

It has to do with tax exempt status. It is that simple.

Individuals and institutions have rights to peaceful political assembly. It's clear that fuckheads like you view Christians as a threat to your anti-family agenda of homo marriage and abortion on demand.

I don't view real genuine Christians who strive to be Christ-like a threat at all.

It is the full of shit so called Christians like you that are the problem. Full on materialistic, greedy, racist sons a bitch Christians who embrace what Christ spoke against.

Call them republiklans...

Do you favor the employment of human monitors in U.S. Mosques when there's a danger of Islamic clerics urging violence?

If a legal wire tap is granted by a Judge according to the law based on solid evidence that a wire tap is actually necessary to maintain law and order...
 
Quote from ktmexc20:

Jeez, such good debate constantly blemished by sicks and stones. Grow up.

Hopefully you'll note for the record who instigated the personal attacks. muZZZlim can always be expected to exhibit the same emotional I.Q. as his fellow Islamists around the globe.
 
Does it matter. Be coy in your personal attacks. Reverse psychology. Covert verbiage. Make 'em think. Be the bigger person. Etc.
 
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