Do you think there's direct manipulation in the stock market?

Is there direct manipulation in the stock market?

  • Yes

    Votes: 41 83.7%

  • No

    Votes: 8 16.3%
  • Total voters
    49
Quote from FringeAlgo:

To add before I log out,

In fact it is too late, it is too late for everything, not even revolution to take down FED would prevent US collapse

Not even Ron Paul would be able to save the country.

Weather by FED alone or by forcing FED's hand by attempting to outlaw them.

USA will collapse as sure as the sun will set.
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You mentioned that "Because FED right now is de facto entire economy. Economy no longer exists, it has been killed by debt."
Why we are in high debt? Why America has the highest debt in the world? Why we have to borrow so much money so that now FED has to keep printing money to pay its own debt loans? I don't think FED is the reason for the collapse of the America but the high debt.
 
true.

Fed is the biggest among others.

they can let market up and down just at their will.

look at those banks, they were at the brink of being washed out, but now they used "tax payer's money :bailout money', they are still here, bac is doubled, aig is 50~60% up....

all those are FED's manipulation, otherwise bac/aig.... is just garnbage
 
The simple changing of the rate of interest is the purest form of makret manipulation. Beyond that, if you don't think the market is manipulated on a short term basis you're trading with your eyes closed. That shouldn't be an excuse for losing money, however. What's stopping you from recognizing periods of manipulation and trading on that side of the market?

If you can't beat them, join them.

Quote from ReaM:

No,

there is no manipulation. Big Boys don't even have to manipulate anything. Average Hedge Fund loses money. Customer's money, but each time they are in plus for the year they would chop off profits. Plus the management fee.

The way big institutions are structured, they don't even have to make money to make money.
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Quote from FringeAlgo:

look man, I am not going to baby sit you

you are either

A - an honest but clueless citizen
B - A shill for the FED
C - A troll out to waste time for the sake of wasting time

Here

if you really want the truth

here you go

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-515319560256183936
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At the end of the video, it shows the solutions to our current monetary system and how we should reform the monetary system, but I don't think anybody would actually do it. Because all the politicians are either ignorant or influenced by the money power and don't realise the gravity of the negligence.
 
Quote from mokwit:

SEC stamped out that sort of thing years ago. Happened in the '20's they say (before the SEC).

Of course conspiracists claim it still goes on every time someone buys index options before a Fed rate cut or a briefing for GS clients by Hank Paulson - that's the tin foil hat brigade for you.
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LOL! SEC. hahahah!

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"Is there direct manipulation in the stock market?"

Technically we don't usually call it like that. We say collaborative or collective actions, as JH often promotes it on ET.
 
I'm looking at some intraday charts, plotting transactions that go off at the ask and at the bid separately... either I'm seeing the effect of just what traders were thinking for the day, their trend bias, or I'm seeing some very clever algos using their abilities with the fake bids and all to manipulate price to the long side.. certainly the news is massaged to promote the long bias, look at how the last jobs data was reported on.
 
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