Do you still get the dividend if your short the shares?

Quote from Brighton:

Oaktree Capital Group Llc (OAK), last $57.69

Tomorrow, 5/15 is the big day. Will it or won't it trade down approx $1.40/sh?

Ehhh...I'll take a stab at it. Trade down to the after tax value, maybe about buck 19
 
There are two levels at work


The holder of record – in other words the trader who bought your shorted (and borrowed) shares – will receive the paid out dividend


However the trader shorting had to borrow these shares in the first place – hence that trader must pay the lender of said shorted shares an amount commensurate to the dividend

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As for voting rights, when a trader agrees to lend their shares out, they also agree to relinquish their voting rights for the duration of their shares being shorted

The trader buying the shorted share(s) will be the holder of record… and has control of the voting rights for as long as they hold said shares (retaining the buyer of record status)


RN
 
When a stock pays dividend, on ex dividend date it opens lower (the same amount as the paid dividend) so basically you will not lose or gain anything just because of dividend on that day. Say a stock is tarding at $60 and it pays $5 dividend. On ex dividend date, it opens at $55 while it shows no change. Some fools also buy the stock and sell it on ex dividend date which causes selling pressue on the stock while those who got dividend almost get nothing. Some investors sell the stock before ex dividend not to pay dividend tax.
Your question was a basic question but it does not mean that the other threads are any better. You might even make money if we have a market correction. Personally I short many dividend paying stocks and I pay the dividend and still make money.
 
Quote from nutmeg:

I have to second that, esp "shares got called" there is no way to know about this situation, prove or disprove.

And sheesh for all the haters out there, people go long before dividend date hoping to collect the dividend, too.

I say for the most part the stock is probably going to drop the amount of dividend and it'll be a wash. There's no free and easy money trading around the dividend.

the way to play the game is..Sell before the ex dividend date

OAK... had a run up to 59.50 then on exdividend day it tanked to 55
4 1/2 points spread ...

Next time long into the div date sell then watch the drop then long again...pays way better then shorting or getting the div
 
Quote from bat1:

the way to play the game is..Sell before the ex dividend date

OAK... had a run up to 59.50 then on exdividend day it tanked to 55
4 1/2 points spread ...

Next time long into the div date sell then watch the drop then long again...pays way better then shorting or getting the div

You could check your theory out here. here's a few others that went ex diviend today.

http://www.thestreet.com/story/1192...k-wtr-sjm-whr-utx.html?puc=yahoo&cm_ven=YAHOO
 
Quote from bat1:

Any stock pros here?



Question, I went short '' OAK'' at 57 ..2000 shares and it is going ex dividend on the 15th do I still get the dividend? I'm still a share holder right or wrong?

ROFLMAO

Funniest post on ET, has to be.

Kudos, mate :D
 
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