Do you keep a credit card ? Or only a debit ?

Do you have a credit card or only a debit card and no credit card ?

  • Have only debit card

    Votes: 4 16.7%
  • Have both credit card and debit card

    Votes: 20 83.3%
  • Have only debit card, with separate small account for transactions.

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    24
Hi guys,

Thank you for the replies !

So a credit card is need for:

- Credit score, Account protection, Rewards, other benefits

Is it possible to have a debit card and do as follows:Have a debit card with a separate account where one keeps small amount of money and use it for transactions - this will provide account protection ?

And is a loan to buy a house available to those who do not have a credit score ? Maybe perhaps at higher rate but available to do it.

What do you think ?
Most people have both. A debit card really isn't that big of a deal. It's something that most people add to a regular account to ease with payment. The primary thing you want to look for when you get a debit card is fraud protection. Mastercard debit cards have the same fraud protection as their credit cards, but some cards don't.

You might be able to get a home loan without a credit score if you have a strong co-signer, but most financial institutions will require one.

The best advice I could give to someone with little to no credit is to get a secured credit card and pay it off every month. This is a safe way of building credit without much risk of running up debt. After a few years of steady payments, you'll have a good credit score. That will pay off in the future.
 
  • There's a difference between debit cards, debit visa/mastercards and credit cards.
I agree with you on some points. I do own a debit card at another bank but its rarely used...maybe I used it once in +10 years but only because I had forgotten my primary wallet that has my Debit visa/mastercards.

I'm not sure about any features my debit card may have. Only problem I've had with it in all the years of having that debit card was the mail gal delivered my new debit card (old one expired) to the neighbours mailbox by accident.

Neighbour gave it to me later that night at our barbecue with the neighbour.

Here's the issue...I think you're talking to me as if I'm defending debit cards after ditching credit cards.

In reality, I'm defending debit visa/mastercards after ditching credit cards because many many years ago I discover that they have the same rewards, same protections, same insurance and so on. In some cases, they have other advantages that a Credit Card does not have.

In fact, @SunTrader posted a link that I was going to post later into this conversation but he beat me too it that shows why Debit visa/mastercards have an advantage over Credit Cards.

https://arsenalcu.com/2019/01/22/run-debit-as-credit/

I've personally experience those advantages because I'm a heavy user of Debit visa/mastercards because I do not have Credit Cards for a very long time (since 1995).
  • Once again...you're mistaken. I'm not talking about Debit cards.
Also, I get purchase alerts to my email every time I make a purchase...email usually received within 1 min after the purchase. That's a neat feature I did not have with my Credit Card purchases. Yet, that little difference may be specific to the bank of the Debit visa/mastercard because I don't have that feature with my other bank that I rarely use the Debit visa/mastercard.

Have I ever had a problem with my Debit visa/mastercard ?

Yes, once with my tax accountant in France. He accidentally charged me 3x times...exact same dollar amount within a few minutes of each other. Secretary in his office was new and using his payment terminal the first time that day.

I got the email alerts after I left his office and walking to my car. Here's the cool thing about that email alert...my bank uses algorithms or something. It recognize the triple payments as unusual. I didn't fit my payment history. It held the last two payments in "pending status".

A few minutes later I get a phone call from the bank...it took a few minutes to verify whom I was and then I authorize them to allow only one of the payments to go thru but to "not allow" the other 2 duplicate payments.

I called my tax accountant, he apologized about the error. No problems.

I don't know I could have had that feature with a Credit Card. In fact, when I use to be a Credit Card user...the Mastercard I had did not sent me email purchase alerts for every single purchase and it did not hold suspicious purchases in "pending status" until Mastercard was able to contact me.

Here's the thing...I also have no annual fees on my Debit visa/mastercard. In fact, I've never heard of an annual fee on such at any other bank.

If you want to use a credit card, that's your choice. Yet, do not tell me I should be using a Credit Card especially when I have had no problems with my credit rating / credit history since I burned my credit cards in 1995 nor have I accumulated any more debt after I paid off those credit cards in 1999 and other personal loans and a business loan that I inherited when I became owner of the business upon the death of my grandparents.

It was a debt they couldn't pay off in 20 years but I paid it off in less than one year. Seriously, I hate debt and I know for fact that 70% (7 out of 10) of the global population are not responsible with their credit cards which is why there's a growing crisis...worst now since the Pandemic.
  • In contrast, if you're a new person to Credit and you're trying to build a good credit rating for the very first time...Credit Cards are a good / quick way to do that but its not the only way to get good credit history.
With that said, someone made a comment that one can not have good credit history if they had no credit cards. That's not true. Read #4 @ https://arsenalcu.com/2019/01/22/run-debit-as-credit/

My bank has the same similar like info too but I'm not going to post a link from my bank (security/privacy reasons) :D

P.S. Last time I'll repeat the above. You will never be able to convince me to go back to using Credit Cards because I already get better features than the Credit Card with my Debit visa/mastercard.

P.S.S. I get air miles and travel rewards with my Debit visa/mastercard. I also get grocery rewards at two of my favourite grocery stores. My last 3 grocery shopping +150 dollars each...didn't pay a penny because I had accumulated enough rewards over the past year at that particular store.

P.S.S.S. I once purchased a new snowblower for $2500 dollars. It was stolen that night after my kids forgot to close the security gate after a day of snow mobiling with friends. I called my Debit Visa @ 1am in the middle of the night because I knew I had insurance with that purchase. They asked a few questions, I fax them the police report. They reimburse me for the full amount with a check by end of month.

Just in time too, got the 2nd snowblower home the day before one of our many snow storms (we get about 5 blizzards per year). Cleared to snow on my property and then drove to the grandparents home to help them.

Also, I didn't want to use my home insurance policy. The purchase insurance with debit visa was the best option for that situation. Guy in the video is someone I know vai another friend...speaks English pretty good too. :cool:


wrbtrader
I'm envious. I love Quebec City.
 
Hi guys,

Thank you for the replies !

So a credit card is need for:

- Credit score, Account protection, Rewards, other benefits

Is it possible to have a debit card and do as follows:Have a debit card with a separate account where one keeps small amount of money and use it for transactions - this will provide account protection?...

Sure. Ever been to a Wal-Mart, or any other type of big-box retailer? They're everywhere.

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Visa-200-Gift-Card/20625678
 
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In fact, @SunTrader posted a link that I was going to post later into this conversation but he beat me too it that shows why Debit visa/mastercards have an advantage over Credit Cards...
Meanwhile I posted that for the opposite reason lol.

But I got to say I never heard of someone maintaining a good or maybe even great credit score (actually FICO is the real deal) by just paying their monthly utility bills on time. There's a reason it is called a credit score.
 
Meanwhile I posted that for the opposite reason lol.

But I got to say I never heard of someone maintaining a good or maybe even great credit score (actually FICO is the real deal) by just paying their monthly utility bills on time. There's a reason it is called a credit score.

Neither have I heard of anyone maintaining good credit score by just (as in only) paying their monthly utility bills. :D

You need to do other things too as I mention to help a relative establish a good credit history. Just do it every 3 - 4 years whenever a need arises.

I have no debit card, only credit cards.

You have no debit card because you got rid of it, lost it, bank doesn't offer it, turned it down or what ?

Yet, they do come in handy when withdrawing cash or making deposits to the ATM machine if you don't have a Debit visa/mastercard.

Actually, how do you withdraw cash or make deposits to your bank account without a debit card considering you can not do that with a credit card ?

I've asked because I've been places where I need cash sometimes and I don't have time to go inside the bank to stand in line for a teller.

wrbtrader
 
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As an example of when cash is more convienient than debit visa/mastercards, credit cards or debit cards...

Neighbour's kid wants to cut your grass. Obviously you aren't going to give the kid your credit card, debit card nor debit visa/mastercard. :D

Giving the kids cash when they plan to hang out with their friends (e.g. go to a movie, go to the mall).
  • Thus, useful sometimes to carry cash too. I usually try to keep about $100 dollars in my wallet. Tough to do because I have teenagers.
Another example, one of my favourite grocery stores requires you to use their carts but you need to insert a one dollar coin into the slot of the cart to be able to use it. You get your one dollar back when you leave the store and put the cart back in its proper place.

It's why I wonder how do people get by when they say they have no debit cards nor debit visa/mastercard but just credit cards.

P.S. Some stores (not many) will allow cash back after making a purchase with a debit card or debit visa/mastercard. Doing such with a credit card...you're charged a higher interest rate. The latter you'll be increasing your debt.

P.S.S. Many countries don't use credit history the same way as the U.S.A...a few do not even have a credit report agency.

wrbtrader
 
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Neither have I heard of anyone maintaining good credit score by just (as in only) paying their monthly utility bills. :D

You need to do other things too as I mention to help a relative establish a good credit history. Just do it every 3 - 4 years whenever a need arises...
Which means you do have ... debt.
 
Which means you do have ... debt.

I will again in a few years. It will be secured debt...not unsecured debt. Yeah...it will still be debt but only for 1 - 2 years until its paid in full. It should be the last time I'll do that again.

Can't say I will never again with confidence...I do have teenagers and they will be adults one day.

wrbtrader
 
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Have both but mostly use credit cards. Why use a card that forces me to pay right away when I can use another that I don't have to pay for an entire month unless the merchant only accepts debit card and nothing else? Especially nowadays all the prices already incorporated all of the benefits from the credit card so if you don't use it then you are subsidizing all of the credit card users by paying the higher prices.
 
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