Quote from Cheese:
Every trade which is entered by a trader is based on a prediction that it will be liquidated at a profit. So logically is there any trader who is not predicting? Of course you can change the semantics and say that you are entering a trade expecting or anticipating or foretelling a successful exit at a profit - its still the same thing.
A market is technical so you can set up a statistical model with extremely high probability that forecasts the direction or large pattern of the day ahead. The question then is, to what degree does this help and inform the player?
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No, it isn't. Thats why I wrote, every trade which is entered by a trader is based on a prediction that it will be liquidated at a profit. In contradistinction, play in a derivative market by funds, arbitragers and commercial hedgers may or does have an offset elsewhere.Quote from icarus618:
This is a flawed premise.
Quote from Cheese:
No, it isn't. Thats why I wrote, every trade which is entered by a trader is based on a prediction that it will be liquidated at a profit. In contradistinction, play in a derivative market by funds, arbitragers and commercial hedgers may or does have an offset elsewhere.
I do not believe it is a matter of semantics for two reasons: (1) your statement implies that the predicting-betting paradigm which abounds in the trading literature, courses, seminars, etc., is the only one available to a trader; and (2) it leaves out traders who purport to trade to make a profit but actually want to be proven right or get a thrill of some sort from taking risks.Quote from Cheese:
Every trade which is entered by a trader is based on a prediction that it will be liquidated at a profit. So logically is there any trader who is not predicting? Of course you can change the semantics and say that you are entering a trade expecting or anticipating or foretelling a successful exit at a profit - its still the same thing.
Well of course its still the same thing .. they just want their prediction to be right. But as well, they are not serious participants in a market.Quote from icarus618:
.. it leaves out traders who purport to trade to make a profit but actually want to be proven right or get a thrill of some sort from taking risks.
