do you believe "Scientist" has "over $100k" in his trading account?

[Rearden Metal]

Hmmm....the IQ test might be your smoking gun.


Btw, anybody who pays $20K for 1/2 carat diamond, regardless of color/clarity is a sucker. Even if you meant $AUD, that's still an absurd price. Would you mind humoring me, and posting a link to any merchant, anywhere in the world asking $20K for any type of 1/2 ct stone? This I gotta see.

My wife's engagement ring cost me just over $21K.
4.27ct, I-VS2. To think I could have gotten a 1/2 ct rock for the same price...lol.

" the gold is 24carat, to the value of over $3K retail"

The bracelet in your pic contains over 7 oz. of gold bullion? She's gotta have some pretty thick wrists for that to add up. Is it like a waist bracelet or something?

Edit: Just one more thing (I know I'm starting to sound like Colombo.) 24K gold Jewlery??? Within one week of normal wear, 24K gold jewlery of any type would be completely disfigured with scratches and little dents, which is why it's so rare. What's going on here?

 

[Scientist]

LOL Gekko! Now, haven't you just made a fool out of yourself and dug your own grave here? OK, let's go:

Quote from Gordon Gekko:

some people in this thread have made it seem like i'm just automatically doubting Scientist because of the $ figures he claims. that is not that case. i even had over $100k at one point. lol

YOU ARE A LIAR. I HAVE NEVER CLAIMED ANY "$ FIGURES" ANYWHERE. PROVE IT - POST LINKS - DO IT NOW!

Besides, now you're saying "I even had over $100K at one point" - And that after you opened this thread with a reference to a post where I said I transferred $100K into my IB account when I opened it! I didn't even say how much there's in there now, but you're telling me that you yourself had 100K once, while claiming that I am a LIAR to mention I did?!

So tell me, Gekko. If we did a poll on ET that asked : Who is more likely to have had a $100K account at any stage of their trading career:

a) Gordon Gekko
b) Scientist

Who do you, honestly, think would get more votes?

i'm doubting Scientist from his collective posts. the ones i posted in this thread are just a fraction of his claims. i mean, come on, he even admits he's been trading with real money just over a year! but he's mastered it already and needs something more challenging! with like 4 losing days in the last 6 months--due to commissions none-the-less! LMAO riiiiiight.....

Yes, so what you little brat? I did years of sim & paper trading by the time I put my real hard-earned money on the line. What's wrong with that? Very much in contrast to you, who started trading "for real" straight away, besides most probably NOT with your own hard-earned cash. You are such a pathetic little loser, no way would I believe you earned even a cent so far in your whole damn life, not to mention enough to day trade! Had you papertraded for a long time like I did, you might have actually gotten somewhere in your trading career.

And what's wrong with "something more challenging"? You honestly believe trading is the only and most challenging thing in the world and there aren't people who look for greater challenges? My god, you have a narrow little mind my friend.

Come to "4 losing days" - I don't know if you've ever heard of the term "scalper", but perhaps you should do a search on it. If you're doing over 50 trades per day, and losing at the end of the day, then my friend you know your strategy isn't working. Losing days may be acceptable for the day trader who does 3-6 trades per day, but for a scalper, "a day is an eternity". Your model of the world isn't my model of the world! Get it into your numb little skull, Gekko!

check out how he handled the IQ mess. does his post look like a joke at all? no. but after everyone called him on it--catching him boasting a IQ result higher than the test can score--then he said it was a joke! SCIENTIST IS THE JOKE.

It wasn't a mess, you were the fool. It was a clear joke. I even explained why, so that even the dumb guys (supposedly) would get it. You think with all the hints given, anybody halfway smart was fooled? You are still insulted because you were one of the idiots who ran right into it, together with Pisspotpete and the other trolls! Want me to post reference?

As anybody can see here, all of Gekko's points are invalid, even contradictive, and nothing but a pathetic attempt to regain his "pride" which some of my jokes have obviously taken off him. It's not my fault that Gekko is such a dumb guy. I fool him, he gets fooled and blames me and starts a crusade? Holy shit! I think it's time to clean this place up a bit!

Got you by the balls, Gekko - Go ahead, post a little more! I'll tear your vindictive little ego to pieces! Welcome are also your other handles, Pisspotpete and the other trolls. I'd love some meat this weekend! In the end, the truth wins, and the truth is getting dangerously close to victory! Namely that all this shit is nothing but a systematic little character assasination campaign by you and your boyfriend LongShot / FPC and all the various handles you post under! And I know who's gonna be standing there as the fool in the end...

Who on this board wants to clean up with this whole mess that Gekko and LongShot consistently try to create?

-S

 

[Gordon Gekko]

lmao..yeah, you got me good! tore me to pieces!

you may have SOMETHING to do with the jewelry business (maybe you work at dad's store or something) and you may trade, but i'd bet anything you have a tendency to exaggerate like hell.

 

[Scientist]

Quote from Rearden Metal:

Hmmm....the IQ test might be your smoking gun.

LOL! I don't know if you read my later reply to that, but here is a bit of it:

Quote from Scientist:
Reality is that I would have expected one of ET's smarter guys (nitro, funky, corvus, nkhoi, harrytrader, even Inandlong or db) to pick up on it first-hand, to then be perpetuated by these two trolls for a few more hours (by when people would have gotten the joke). Funnily enough, things turned out differently, a smart long-time lurker called Resolas Inamtih discovered the pun and finished the gag with a very elegant indeed post, to be then continued by the trolls.

What I didn't really expect so much is that the joke would take so long to figure out and yet get perpetuated in such an unelegant way once discovered.

I thought I made it so easy it wouldn't even work, but said "never underestimate the stupidity of the general public", which is a business maxim from Bradley Sugars, so I put a few (obvious?) hints in to make it simple:

1) I added exactly 100 points to the score of the person I quoted (124 = 224).
This should have made anybody with a brain snicker. Anybody here?

2) I literally said that "I got 100% everywhere and it says I'm a Word Warrior"
If I got 100% everywhere, how could I get a specifically high score anywhere, to excel in one particular field???
Who figured this one?

3) Anybody halfway non-ignorant or somewhat enquirical / sceptical should have figured the clause that "144" is the maximum attainable score in this test.
Anybody but Resolas figured this? Oh come on!!!


The funny and expected reaction with any riddle or slightly controversial statement is that first the brain-less critics will go at it, make a big scandal out of it, meanwhile the smarter ones long got over it, saw the idiocy and quietly laugh about the dumb public still getting all riled up about it (come on, nkhoi, harry, Inandlong, corvus - believed it for how long?)

Btw, anybody who pays $20K for 1/2 carat diamond, regardless of color/clarity is a sucker. Even if you meant $AUD, that's still an absurd price. Would you mind humoring me, and posting a link to any merchant, anywhere in the world asking $20K for any type of 1/2 ct stone? This I gotta see.

You might be very surprised! Some jewellers will charge this, some even more. I'm talking a top-grade VVS1, which is the grade right below FL, at a top color!

My wife's engagement ring cost me just over $21K.
4.27ct, I-VS2. To think I could have gotten a 1/2 ct rock for the same price...lol.

Yes, but you're talking I-VS2. I am not supposed to tell [clients] this, since it always pisses them off, but you still paid quite a bit... well... I won't go into it. Yet please realize that I-VS2 isn't top-hot. You can get a high-carat rock in that grade, yet please realize that value grows exponentially with clarity, color and cut rather than weight.

Here's the grades:
Clarity:
1. FL
2. (IF)
3. VVS1
4. VVS2
5. VS2 (Your wife's?)
6. VS1
7. SI1
8. SI2
9. I1
10. I2
11. I3
12. Industrial Grade

Color:
1. A
2. B
3. C
4. D
5. E
6. F
7. G
8. H
9. I (Your wife's diamond)

... You know what I'm getting at?

"the gold is 24carat, to the value of over $3K retail"

The bracelet in your pic contains over 7 oz. of gold bullion? She's gotta have some pretty thick wrists for that to add up. Is it like a waist bracelet or something?

Again, retail isn't wholesale. The content is just over 1 ounce, if you had that alloyed into 18ct, you'd quite likely be paying $3K or more for the worked gold at a lot of jeweller's...

Warmest Regards,
Scientist.

 

[Rearden Metal]

Handled many A,B, or C color grade Diamonds in your career there, scientist? ...LOL, now you'll either have to edit that out, or pretend you were joking.

Sorry I doubted you, GG ...this guy doesn't even know standard diamond grading.

Quote from Scientist:

LOL! I don't know if you read my later reply to that, but here is a bit of it:


You might be very surprised! Some jewellers will charge this, some even more. I'm talking a top-grade VVS1, which is the grade right below FL, at a top color!

Yes, but you're talking I-VS2. I am not supposed to tell [clients] this, since it always pisses them off, but you still paid quite a bit... well... I won't go into it. Yet please realize that I-VS2 isn't top-hot. You can get a high-carat rock in that grade, yet please realize that value grows exponentially with clarity, color and cut rather than weight.

Here's the grades:
Clarity:
1. FL
2. (IF)
3. VVS1
4. VVS2
5. VS2 (Your wife's?)
6. VS1
7. SI1
8. SI2
9. I1
10. I2
11. I3
12. Industrial Grade

Color:
1. A
2. B
3. C
4. D
5. E
6. F
7. G
8. H
9. I (Your wife's diamond)

... You know what I'm getting at?

Again, retail isn't wholesale. The content is just over 1 ounce, if you had that alloyed into 18ct, you'd quite likely be paying $3K or more for the worked gold at a lot of jeweller's...

Warmest Regards,
Scientist.

 

[Scientist]

Quote from Gordon Gekko:

You may have SOMETHING to do with the jewelry business (maybe you work at dad's store or something) and you may trade, but i'd bet anything you have a tendency to exaggerate like hell.

Exxagerate? Me? More like the opposite I think - actually.

So have a look at these items, designed and manufactured by ME (all sold but one) - And give me a rough guess what they're worth...

Hmm... The kid's gotta start getting clues sometime... Even GG can't be that stupid.

-S

 

[ElCubano]

Quote from Gordon Gekko:

lmao..yeah, you got me good! tore me to pieces!

you may have SOMETHING to do with the jewelry business (maybe you work at dad's store or something) and you may trade, but i'd bet anything you have a tendency to exaggerate like hell.

you may be right and you may be wrong......now what???

 

[Scientist]

Quote from Rearden Metal:

Handled many A,B, or C color grade Diamonds in your career there, scientist? ...LOL, now you'll either have to edit that out, or pretend you were joking.

Sorry I doubted you, GG ...this guy doesn't even know standard diamond grading.

Nope, D is all I've ever handled is D (Truly Colourless), E (Extremely Colourless) and so on. Not even sure sure if ABC exist, so I'll just look that up...

-S

 

[Scientist]

Quote from Scientist:

Nope, D is all I've ever handled is D (Truly Colourless), E (Extremely Colourless) and so on. Not even sure sure if ABC exist, so I'll just look that up...

-S

Looked it up... Nope... Starts at D. My mistake. Disqualifies me as a gemmologist, but does little about being a jeweller. I should have done at least Certificate IV in gemmology, but went into trading before that. Too bad. How did I manage to sell diamonds before without knowing that? Thanks for the nudge, Rearden_Metal!

Scientist.

 

[Rearden Metal]

Ok, Firstly I admit I'm only interrogating you because my once glorious daytrading career fell apart shortly after the tech boom ended, and I have way too much time on my hands. Cracking you is like a (slightly) stimulating game or puzzle.

Why would you design and manufacture intricately carved 24K gold jewelry (an almost unheard of practice), which would without question become disfigured with multiple scratches and dents within just a few days of normal wear, and call it an investment for eternity? I'm an expert on gold bullion, and know first hand how easy it is to scratch/dent the stuff.

Check mate?

Quote from Scientist:

Looked it up... Nope... Starts at D. My mistake. Disqualifies me as a gemmologist, but does little about being a jeweler. I should have done at least Certificate IV in gemmology, but went into trading before that. Too bad. How did I manage to sell diamonds before without knowing that? Thanks for the nudge, Rearden_Metal!

Scientist.