Do you believe Michael Jackson is a child molester?
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Let's not accuse an INNOCENT man before all the facts are presented at trial and judged by a jury of his peers.
Check this little bit out. It appears that the boy's father abused him, too.
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/mjaccuser1.html
NOVEMBER 21--The uproar surrounding the Michael Jackson case will not be the first time the alleged victim's life has encountered significant tumult, court records reveal.
The 13-year-old boy's father was arrested last year on a variety of child abuse charges, including counts alleging that the man, a 37-year-old supermarket employee, may have "endangered" his son's health through "cruel and inhuman corporal punishment" that resulted in "a traumatic condition." The boy's father pleaded no contest last year to a single misdemeanor charge of willful cruelty to a child (he finished a court-ordered parenting class, according to a January 2003 court progress report). Below you'll find the misdemeanor complaint filed against the man, whose name (and those of his children) we've redacted to protect the identity of Jackson's alleged victim.
In an October 2001 divorce petition, the man's estranged wife alleged that he once threatened to kill her and the couple's three kids, including the child who has accused Jackson of molestation. The account of the alleged death threat was included in the wife's application for an order of protection, which the woman--who has sole custody of her children--included with the divorce filing. A Los Angeles Superior Court judge granted the 35-year-old woman's request for a protective order, which the man was charged with violating last year when he was arrested in the child abuse case.
Details from the couple's matrimonial case, which is still pending, could presumably be used in an attempt to discredit the mother and, by extension, her son's abuse account.
In a recent court bid for spousal and child support, the woman reported that she was unemployed and that her income was limited to a $769 monthly check from the federal Aid to Families with Dependent Children program. The woman stated her family had monthly expenses totaling $1340, which included rent of $425. The woman's support request was approved this March by an L.A. judge who ordered that $1499 be automatically deducted from her estranged husband's paycheck.
With Jackson supporters already whispering that the boy's molestation charges are part of a shakedown plot, the meager finances of the accuser's family are likely to be pinpointed as motivation for this supposed scheme.
When Micheal Jackson heard someone mention Boys to Men recently, he thought it was home delivery service!
TAKE ME TO SOUTH AMERICA Nov 23 2003
STAR TRIED TO FLEE U.S.
By Stephen Martin
UNHINGED Michael Jackson went into mid-air meltdown and tried to flee America as he flew home to be arrested and handcuffed.
The singer, sedated by doctors but gripped by panic at child sex charges, demanded to be flown to a South America bolt-hole.
Trembling and swaying, he ordered aides to change his plane's flight path and spring him to a haven beyond the reach of US law.
But flunkies refused for fear that US air control would force the 87-TD private jet down for an emergency landing by knocking out its satellite navigation systems. And they insisted Jackson - accused of sex offences against 12-year-old cancer victim Gavin Arvizo - should give himself up.
Muttering to himself and screaming "it's not fair", Jackson spent the journey rocking backwards and forwards in his seat.
The star's deranged antics on the jet from Las Vegas to California shocked even those used to his odd behaviour.
At first he refused to board the plane taking him to Santa Barbara for a showdown with District Attorney Tom Sneddon. A witness said: "His people almost dragged him on in the end. He was shaking and in a state of near hysteria."
Once aboard, father-of-three Jackson demanded the pilot change routes and take him and his children to South America. The witness said: "Jackson was adamant he was going to do a runner because he was so nervous. But his attorneys managed to talk him out of it. There was a lot of shouting. They told him the authorities would jam the guidance systems on the plane.
"They said the plane would be forced into an emergency landing.
"Even if he did succeed in leaving the country, he would be extradited back to the United States.
"Jacko was sitting in his chair rocking backwards and forwards chattering to himself with his head in his hands. He was a total basket case."
The source went on: "A man in a suit, carrying a medical bag was walking alongside Jacko when he finally got on the plane. Then Jackson demanded that they have Kentucky Fried Chicken delivered to the plane before he would agree to take off."
Jackson was put in his seat, flanked by two bodyguards. Then he was given an injection to calm him down.
"Even the sedatives didn't help much," said the source. "He repeatedly squealed, 'Why, why, why are they doing this to me?' He was totally agitated, sweating, his hair covering his face and he wrung his hands incessantly. He looked like he was doing the Moonwalk while sitting down"
Jackson was on board the plane with his children, Prince Michael, six, Paris, five, and toddler Prince Michael II.
Earlier, there had been more oddball antics as Jackson prepared to leave the Green Valley Ranch, a luxury Vegas resort where he had been staying while filming a new video.
The source said: "Jackson's handlers noticed he was missing and when they went searching, they found him outside the private bungalow. When asked what he was doing, he said that he saw a field mouse and wanted to play with it, but was unable to find it."
On Friday, Jackson returned to Vegas after being released on bail of £2million. On the flight back, Jackson was calmer and told the crew he was relieved he was not remanded in custody and didn't have to go to jail. But he refused to communicate with the doctor who had sedated him on the outward journey.
The source said: "Jackson just sat there, rubbing his wrists where the handcuffs had been."
STAR TRIED TO FLEE U.S.
By Stephen Martin
UNHINGED Michael Jackson went into mid-air meltdown and tried to flee America as he flew home to be arrested and handcuffed.
The singer, sedated by doctors but gripped by panic at child sex charges, demanded to be flown to a South America bolt-hole.
Trembling and swaying, he ordered aides to change his plane's flight path and spring him to a haven beyond the reach of US law.
But flunkies refused for fear that US air control would force the 87-TD private jet down for an emergency landing by knocking out its satellite navigation systems. And they insisted Jackson - accused of sex offences against 12-year-old cancer victim Gavin Arvizo - should give himself up.
Muttering to himself and screaming "it's not fair", Jackson spent the journey rocking backwards and forwards in his seat.
The star's deranged antics on the jet from Las Vegas to California shocked even those used to his odd behaviour.
At first he refused to board the plane taking him to Santa Barbara for a showdown with District Attorney Tom Sneddon. A witness said: "His people almost dragged him on in the end. He was shaking and in a state of near hysteria."
Once aboard, father-of-three Jackson demanded the pilot change routes and take him and his children to South America. The witness said: "Jackson was adamant he was going to do a runner because he was so nervous. But his attorneys managed to talk him out of it. There was a lot of shouting. They told him the authorities would jam the guidance systems on the plane.
"They said the plane would be forced into an emergency landing.
"Even if he did succeed in leaving the country, he would be extradited back to the United States.
"Jacko was sitting in his chair rocking backwards and forwards chattering to himself with his head in his hands. He was a total basket case."
The source went on: "A man in a suit, carrying a medical bag was walking alongside Jacko when he finally got on the plane. Then Jackson demanded that they have Kentucky Fried Chicken delivered to the plane before he would agree to take off."
Jackson was put in his seat, flanked by two bodyguards. Then he was given an injection to calm him down.
"Even the sedatives didn't help much," said the source. "He repeatedly squealed, 'Why, why, why are they doing this to me?' He was totally agitated, sweating, his hair covering his face and he wrung his hands incessantly. He looked like he was doing the Moonwalk while sitting down"
Jackson was on board the plane with his children, Prince Michael, six, Paris, five, and toddler Prince Michael II.
Earlier, there had been more oddball antics as Jackson prepared to leave the Green Valley Ranch, a luxury Vegas resort where he had been staying while filming a new video.
The source said: "Jackson's handlers noticed he was missing and when they went searching, they found him outside the private bungalow. When asked what he was doing, he said that he saw a field mouse and wanted to play with it, but was unable to find it."
On Friday, Jackson returned to Vegas after being released on bail of £2million. On the flight back, Jackson was calmer and told the crew he was relieved he was not remanded in custody and didn't have to go to jail. But he refused to communicate with the doctor who had sedated him on the outward journey.
The source said: "Jackson just sat there, rubbing his wrists where the handcuffs had been."
Jackson's explicit letters seized
By CAROLINE GRAHAM and SHARON CHURCHER in London
November 24, 2003
EXPLICIT letters and poems said to have been written by Michael Jackson to his alleged victim will form the centrepiece of the sex-abuse case against him.
Police seized at least a dozen letters during the raid on Jackson's Neverland ranch last week.
"The district attorney is convinced these letters will be crucial to the case against Jackson," a source close to the investigation said yesterday.
"The boy told investigators about letters and poems and their precise location inside Michael's home. These letters were among the evidence seized, along with videotapes.
"They are very explicit and intimate and show a degree of familiarity. Basically, they appear to be love letters from Michael to the boy."
The accuser, 12-year-old Los Angeles cancer victim Gavin Arvizo, also told police Jackson's pet name for him was Rubba.
"The boy first told this to his therapist, then repeated it to police," the source said.
"He said Jackson called him Rubba because one of the games they used to play was called rubba rubba. The boy said, 'Michael told me he was my rubba rubba friend."'
Although police handling the case in Santa Barbara, California, have been barred from revealing any details, it is understood the alleged abuse took place in February.
Jackson is said to have befriended Gavin -- who, during a controversial British documentary screened earlier this year, admitted having shared a bed with the singer -- over a long period.
A source close to 45-year-old Jackson said: "For the past five or six years, he's taken kids from fractured homes and nurtured them as a father figure. As they get older, he teaches them fun things to do.
"Michael says he learned this from an adult when he was a teenager. No-one on his staff ever said anything. He's a tyrant. Everybody obeys the man."
Another Jackson source said: "The boy told of everything that went on and described things in Michael's closets, his bathroom, what was under his bed."
In her statements to police, Gavin's mother, Janet Ventura, has revealed that Jackson encouraged her son to call him "Daddy".
Ms Ventura has claimed she, Gavin and his two siblings were held virtual prisoners at Neverland, 100km north of Santa Barbara.
When she learned of her son's accusations of molestation -- which included claims that Jackson plied him with wine and sleeping pills -- she fled with her family in the dead of night.
A source close to district attorney Tom Sneddon, who will prosecute the case, said: "The DA is very confident with the evidence he has. This includes letters, videos and computer files. They believe they have enough to nail Jackson."
Jackson's legal team is said to be encouraging him to consider a plea bargain, possibly an insanity defence that would allow him to serve time in a state mental hospital instead of jail.
There was speculation yesterday that the singer raised his $3 million bail with the help of Miami-based Al Malnik, a lawyer for notorious gangster Meyer Lansky, who died in 1983.
Malnik reportedly began making large loans to Jackson when his career nosedived.
Malnik, 69, was cited by the New Jersey Casino Control Commission in 1980 and 1992 as a person of unsuitable character.
The prosecution source said: "It just gets weirder and weirder. Michael supposedly has financial problems, but hiring someone with Mob connections is bizarre."
Prosecutors are said to be spreading a net around the world for other alleged victims. One boy of special interest is said to be in El Salvador, another in South Africa.
They are also said to be considering quizzing the son of an English premiership footballer.
Charges of aiding and abetting are likely to be filed against members of Jackson's entourage.
At the same time as the Neverland swoop, police raided two homes in Los Angeles.
One was reportedly the residence of Marc Schaffel, a gay video producer who filmed the rebuttal tape Jackson released just after Martin Bashir's British documentary aired.
By CAROLINE GRAHAM and SHARON CHURCHER in London
November 24, 2003
EXPLICIT letters and poems said to have been written by Michael Jackson to his alleged victim will form the centrepiece of the sex-abuse case against him.
Police seized at least a dozen letters during the raid on Jackson's Neverland ranch last week.
"The district attorney is convinced these letters will be crucial to the case against Jackson," a source close to the investigation said yesterday.
"The boy told investigators about letters and poems and their precise location inside Michael's home. These letters were among the evidence seized, along with videotapes.
"They are very explicit and intimate and show a degree of familiarity. Basically, they appear to be love letters from Michael to the boy."
The accuser, 12-year-old Los Angeles cancer victim Gavin Arvizo, also told police Jackson's pet name for him was Rubba.
"The boy first told this to his therapist, then repeated it to police," the source said.
"He said Jackson called him Rubba because one of the games they used to play was called rubba rubba. The boy said, 'Michael told me he was my rubba rubba friend."'
Although police handling the case in Santa Barbara, California, have been barred from revealing any details, it is understood the alleged abuse took place in February.
Jackson is said to have befriended Gavin -- who, during a controversial British documentary screened earlier this year, admitted having shared a bed with the singer -- over a long period.
A source close to 45-year-old Jackson said: "For the past five or six years, he's taken kids from fractured homes and nurtured them as a father figure. As they get older, he teaches them fun things to do.
"Michael says he learned this from an adult when he was a teenager. No-one on his staff ever said anything. He's a tyrant. Everybody obeys the man."
Another Jackson source said: "The boy told of everything that went on and described things in Michael's closets, his bathroom, what was under his bed."
In her statements to police, Gavin's mother, Janet Ventura, has revealed that Jackson encouraged her son to call him "Daddy".
Ms Ventura has claimed she, Gavin and his two siblings were held virtual prisoners at Neverland, 100km north of Santa Barbara.
When she learned of her son's accusations of molestation -- which included claims that Jackson plied him with wine and sleeping pills -- she fled with her family in the dead of night.
A source close to district attorney Tom Sneddon, who will prosecute the case, said: "The DA is very confident with the evidence he has. This includes letters, videos and computer files. They believe they have enough to nail Jackson."
Jackson's legal team is said to be encouraging him to consider a plea bargain, possibly an insanity defence that would allow him to serve time in a state mental hospital instead of jail.
There was speculation yesterday that the singer raised his $3 million bail with the help of Miami-based Al Malnik, a lawyer for notorious gangster Meyer Lansky, who died in 1983.
Malnik reportedly began making large loans to Jackson when his career nosedived.
Malnik, 69, was cited by the New Jersey Casino Control Commission in 1980 and 1992 as a person of unsuitable character.
The prosecution source said: "It just gets weirder and weirder. Michael supposedly has financial problems, but hiring someone with Mob connections is bizarre."
Prosecutors are said to be spreading a net around the world for other alleged victims. One boy of special interest is said to be in El Salvador, another in South Africa.
They are also said to be considering quizzing the son of an English premiership footballer.
Charges of aiding and abetting are likely to be filed against members of Jackson's entourage.
At the same time as the Neverland swoop, police raided two homes in Los Angeles.
One was reportedly the residence of Marc Schaffel, a gay video producer who filmed the rebuttal tape Jackson released just after Martin Bashir's British documentary aired.
Too bad he didn't invite Armin Meiwes ( http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3230774.stm ) over for sh1ts and giggles. "Mr Meiwes told investigators he took Mr Brandes back to his home, where Mr Brandes agreed to have his penis cut off, which Mr Meiwes then flambeed and served up to eat together.
Mr Meiwes says he then killed Mr Brandes with his consent - recording the two-hour event on video. "
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