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Quote from Grob109:
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Thanks for your effort.
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You were in a setting to make live trading calls as a demonstration of your techniques. A witness to the demonstration
voluntarily praised your efforts but nonetheless was left with the impression that you were not able to actually trade successfully.
Are you saying that you in fact did show profitable trading and your demonstration was successful ? Or are you saying "Never mind MY performance" its the theory that counts ?
 
Quote from Chicken Little:

You were in a setting to make live trading calls as a demonstration of your techniques. A witness to the demonstration
voluntarily praised your efforts but nonetheless was left with the impression that you were not able to actually trade successfully.
Are you saying that you in fact did show profitable trading and your demonstration was successful ? Or are you saying "Never mind MY performance" its the theory that counts ?

Your inquiry is bias towards the belief that all things must fail. What would convince you that something works? How many days do you think you would need to observe before you believe? For most if not all, it will never be enough days before they believe. All types of excuses pop in, (ie. "Even I saw that trend coming a million ticks away", "Everyone was right today", "It was a clear S/R point", "Fib said exact same thing",etc..). I encourage you to have an open mind and to sort out differences that you do versus what someone else does and more importantly, why that person does what they do (ie. what is the driving mechanism)?
 
Quote from makosgu:

Easy.

It's weird for one thing or another. I'll go out on a limb but I reckon Grob/Prof see ET as a community. Just like any other community, needy communities will attract the attention from those who can provide community service and do a whole heck of alot of good. At some point, you see alot of needy people here in these forums. ALOT, I can see this from the myriad of PMs I get. Thus, ET can be seen as a huge community service project. The community here is 35k+. How many community service programs are here? You will find nearly none. How many leaders are here offering community service (which is always FREE). Even fewer. Your rational is a simplex of the prevalent edge syndrome. I used to be on both sides of the fence, edge/non-edge and was failing to realize that there was a non-edge sector. I really haven't spelled out anything. I just color in some context. Then individuals have to take over from there otherwise you'll never be able to fish for yourself... I don't claim to be an expert in any of this, just stating what my beliefs are built around. Prob just a result of spending too much time critically thinking. It's giving me the edge in my dayjob and this is usually because most employees opt to be lazy. Apparently, trading is similar. The laziest is to just find some magical number that works a majority of the time (ie. fib). Rarely do people inquire, even fewer inquire to themselves or to someone who can show you the precise flaws in what you are attempting to understand... Not being open-minded doesn't help either.

Well for one thing I doubt there are more than a few hundred active posters on ET. The 35k number is hyperinflated containing everyone who has ever registered. And of the few hundred I would bet that 95% are as greedy and selfish as me. Nevertheless I applaud your charity.:)

 
Quote from makosgu:

Your inquiry is bias towards the belief that all things must fail. What would convince you that something works? How many days do you think you would need to observe before you believe? For most if not all, it will never be enough days before they believe. All types of excuses pop in, (ie. "Even I saw that trend coming a million ticks away", "Everyone was right today", "It was a clear S/R point", "Fib said exact same thing",etc..). I encourage you to have an open mind and to sort out differences that you do versus what someone else does and more importantly, why that person does what they do (ie. what is the driving mechanism)?

One day is sufficient. 4-5 trades ought to do it. Grob109 may name the charity and I will make a donation. I am only doubting that Grob109 eats his own cooking. I am not opposed to eating crow.
 
Quote from Chicken Little:

You were in a setting to make live trading calls as a demonstration of your techniques. A witness to the demonstration
voluntarily praised your efforts but nonetheless was left with the impression that you were not able to actually trade successfully.
Are you saying that you in fact did show profitable trading and your demonstration was successful ? Or are you saying "Never mind MY performance" its the theory that counts ?

To change the topic, I was in paltalk because it was setup and run by some persons to try to improve upon the transfer of stuff from me to them.

There was a start up transition.

The group agreed on what they felt was best to discuss.

I was repremanded repeatly for breaking the rules. The rules were very well intended, constructed and extremely wise to be using.

If you get what I said let me know and I will continue to inform you.

The post you made above is kind of trivial in many ways since you think you are doing research but you actually are screwing up in many ways.

Lets slow down so you can get yourself straightened out if possible.

I am making a negative comment to you because you have screwed up.
 
Quote from Grob109:

To change the topic, I was in paltalk because it was setup and run by some persons to try to improve upon the transfer of stuff from me to them.

There was a start up transition.

The group agreed on what they felt was best to discuss.

I was repremanded repeatly for breaking the rules. The rules were very well intended, constructed and extremely wise to be using.

If you get what I said let me know and I will continue to inform you.

The post you made above is kind of trivial in many ways since you think you are doing research but you actually are screwing up in many ways.

Lets slow down so you can get yourself straightened out if possible.

I am making a negative comment to you because you have screwed up.

Someone saw you trade. They said the trading sucked. Conclusion: You cant employ your own theory or the theory is wrong or the person was lying.
 
Kick back, turbo. Your conclusion leaves out a few things. I'll let you figure out what they are since your mind is focused on drawing conclusions.

Here's the thing, people see what they are ready and able to see. Often what they see is only what they want to see. A person who wants to move from his current place should therefore work on expanding his awareness. You demonstrate how difficult that is for most people.
 
Quote from Chicken Little:

Someone saw you trade. They said the trading sucked. Conclusion: You cant employ your own theory or the theory is wrong or the person was lying.


Thanks for your response.

I can see that you have drawn the appropriate conclusions for yourself and and you and most others such as yourself can abide by what you now know.

Do you know why you made the request that I go to the ET chat room and do something? You suggested 4 or 5 trades or something-- a demo. At some point you will find out, probably from others, that whatever happened in the room, each one there would report out different things. Whose view do you think would be the most reliable? Why? What is the follow on for you, in any event?

So, now you can cross me off your list, please.
 
Quote from Chicken Little:

Someone saw you trade. They said the trading sucked. Conclusion: You cant employ your own theory or the theory is wrong or the person was lying.

Chicken Little...

If I may and I suspect you want me to not suggest anything, be a Type A. There are crap load of critics of every person here in ET. People look at Prof's result and infuriate that he's absurd. The same has been done countless to Grob. I recommend that you just start firing Q's. Grob has found something interesting about your orientation that he wishes to assist you with in your development. It is a free opportunity. Take it upon yourself to seize this opportunity to learn. All former and current Presidents have critics, AMT4SWA has critcs, Scientist has critics, Bryce (etc...). Focus on what your doing so that you may be helped unless you do not seek help. If not, do you wish to help if you are the helping type...
 
Quote from Grob109:

Thanks for your response.

I can see that you have drawn the appropriate conclusions for yourself and and you and most others such as yourself can abide by what you now know.

Do you know why you made the request that I go to the ET chat room and do something? You suggested 4 or 5 trades or something-- a demo. At some point you will find out, probably from others, that whatever happened in the room, each one there would report out different things. Whose view do you think would be the most reliable? Why? What is the follow on for you, in any event?

So, now you can cross me off your list, please.

I'd be most happy to hear from those with a glowing report of the paltalk live trading project...................
 
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