do not call registration
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ok.. that WAS FUNNY!!!
Post with analogy about fences, great point, and the exact reason why the DNC list should stand (even though telemarketing co's are fighting it). Doesn't mean I am not concerned about the job loss. I may be a bit too close to it though being in Omaha, NE, which IS the telemarketing capital of the US (not something I am proud to say).
Supposedly any violations get referred to local law enforcement and with all they have on their plate, going after a fone solicitor will probably rank just above a barking dog service call.
Remember, however, policies like these are directed at major offenders. Just like Better Business Bureaus around the country, it's how many times you're getting reported. Anyone who's been in business long enough is going to have a complaint from someone. The key is how many, the track record... and the ability to go after them.
The only difference is that this is a business that is being governed out of business. It isn't going away because business found another way to market their products. A natural death to telemarketing would be if nobody ever bought something from a telemarketer... the businesses using telemarketing as a marketing avenue would turn to something that works (TV, Web, Radio, Print, etc).... and telemarketing companies would go out of business. But, people do buy from telemarketers (creating millions of jobs).
The reason why there's such animosity about telemarketers is that the business is indeed suspect. I say this based personal experience. In between jobs a lifetime ago, I tried telemarketing. They sold pens to people at home during the day. 300 pens with your name on them for $195 or something.
You should have seen the lists of names we had. Names like Ethel or Mervin, dated names, the names of people from their 70s and 80s. Or there were guys that I talked to who could have been in the 30s with an IQ of maybe 50. I found myself asking if they didn't have a check book or credit card if they could get a bank check.
They spoke of no cold calling, that these customers are people who they or other businesses like themselves have done business with in the past.
The people fell into two categories. Either they were senior citizens who needed to have someone looking in on them or they were incoherent unemployed 30 sometimes at home during the day. Every one was gullible.
I went through about 10 hours of training. And then was turned loose, having calls fed to me. I only made four phone calls before I quit. The most scary thing to me was that I could have done it. You get one in 10 to buy, and you make 20+ phone calls an hour, you can make your living doing it. The head guy said they had people making 30k to 100K in the office. And I believe it.
Interesting trading connection. In the training, the biggest thing they talked about was rejection. Don't get down when you get rejected. That's the hardest thing to do. Don't let it get to you. If someone's difficult, get off the phone. Be polite, but get off the phone, don't let their bad vibe get to you, you've got alot of numbers you can call. It's not worth it to let one person's tirade have a change to effect your positive outlook.
In short, they knew that people can be duped out of their money. I still shudder when I think of myself asking this one guy if he could get a bank check.
André
Remember, however, policies like these are directed at major offenders. Just like Better Business Bureaus around the country, it's how many times you're getting reported. Anyone who's been in business long enough is going to have a complaint from someone. The key is how many, the track record... and the ability to go after them.
The only difference is that this is a business that is being governed out of business. It isn't going away because business found another way to market their products. A natural death to telemarketing would be if nobody ever bought something from a telemarketer... the businesses using telemarketing as a marketing avenue would turn to something that works (TV, Web, Radio, Print, etc).... and telemarketing companies would go out of business. But, people do buy from telemarketers (creating millions of jobs).
The reason why there's such animosity about telemarketers is that the business is indeed suspect. I say this based personal experience. In between jobs a lifetime ago, I tried telemarketing. They sold pens to people at home during the day. 300 pens with your name on them for $195 or something.
You should have seen the lists of names we had. Names like Ethel or Mervin, dated names, the names of people from their 70s and 80s. Or there were guys that I talked to who could have been in the 30s with an IQ of maybe 50. I found myself asking if they didn't have a check book or credit card if they could get a bank check.
They spoke of no cold calling, that these customers are people who they or other businesses like themselves have done business with in the past.
The people fell into two categories. Either they were senior citizens who needed to have someone looking in on them or they were incoherent unemployed 30 sometimes at home during the day. Every one was gullible.
I went through about 10 hours of training. And then was turned loose, having calls fed to me. I only made four phone calls before I quit. The most scary thing to me was that I could have done it. You get one in 10 to buy, and you make 20+ phone calls an hour, you can make your living doing it. The head guy said they had people making 30k to 100K in the office. And I believe it.
Interesting trading connection. In the training, the biggest thing they talked about was rejection. Don't get down when you get rejected. That's the hardest thing to do. Don't let it get to you. If someone's difficult, get off the phone. Be polite, but get off the phone, don't let their bad vibe get to you, you've got alot of numbers you can call. It's not worth it to let one person's tirade have a change to effect your positive outlook.
In short, they knew that people can be duped out of their money. I still shudder when I think of myself asking this one guy if he could get a bank check.
André
Has anyone else noticed how telemarketers have become even more inept during the last couple of months. Just last night I received a call that almost had me wondering if it even was from a real telemarketer. He was quite obviously intoxicated and was babbling "Ahhhh, The ... sir ... good evening .. sir ... the .... arrrr .... the . ... re-reason for this call ... sir ... ahh... surely you have mortgage your home right?"
But this is not the only time in the past few weeks that I have had telemarketers call me that nobody in their right mind would even consider buying anything from. At the same time I am receiving fewer and fewer "classic" telemarketing attacks where someone who at least has learned a couple of lines tries to sell me long distance service or a credit card.
Am I the only one observing this?
But this is not the only time in the past few weeks that I have had telemarketers call me that nobody in their right mind would even consider buying anything from. At the same time I am receiving fewer and fewer "classic" telemarketing attacks where someone who at least has learned a couple of lines tries to sell me long distance service or a credit card.
Am I the only one observing this?
I don't know about mumblers. But I have noticed an increase of canned messages. Messages left by a machine. They're not bad, they've been recorded as such to make it appear that there's actually a live person leaving a recorded message. There's some pauses, etc. But it's still pretty clear it's a recorded message.
Anyone getting those? These seem to come from mortgage companies or credit consolidation companies.
André
Anyone getting those? These seem to come from mortgage companies or credit consolidation companies.
André
I had a guy knock on my door last night trying to sell me some coupons to a restaurant...does that count 
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I hope so...can`t wait to see all the scumbag brokers starve to death.
About 8 years ago,i gave the retail broker route a try and hated it.But almost every firm does still cold call to try and get new business.Will brokerage profits suffer now because of this new rule?Is it time to short the brokers?
Junk mailers and phone solicitors will go away only when it costs them money to stay. With the junk mail with prepaid mailing envelopes, just tear up all your junk mail, pull out the pieces with your name and address on them, put them randomly in the mailback envelopes and mail it all. Your junk mail will go away nearly 100% in two weeks. There are two kinds of mailing envelopes, "postage prepaid" and "postage guaranteed". If it is a "postage guaranteed" one, tape it to a brick and mail that to them. With the telephone solicitors I used to do mean things like tell them I was excited to have an opportunity to buy something and ask them to wait, lay the phone down and go back to what I was doing. After a few minutes the phone would start beeping and a recording would tell me to hang up. I dont' feel too good about that because it did nothing to stop the calls at all and basically, most of those people are in halfway houses and what not due to being abused, heaping more abuse on them actually really sucks. The registration thing seems to work though, thank you Dubya, nobody did a thing about this shit for decades.