Do most traders even have an edge?

So your saying im up over 150% because of luck? Wow you are an idiot lol!! There is no edge you guys. There is only the ability to watch and predict what the market is going to do next by the way it trades. Now either you can or you can't do this.
 
edge = talent

edge = consistency

edge != my special triple guppy ema setting overlayed with CCI

edge = I R GOOD TRADER

Edge is just a condescending way of saying ''i am a good trader and you are not''
 
Quote from silvermotion:

edge = talent

edge = consistency

edge != my special triple guppy ema setting overlayed with CCI

edge = I R GOOD TRADER

Edge is just a condescending way of saying ''i am a good trader and you are not''


Exactly!!! Wow what a smart guy!
 
Quote from youngtrader:

So your saying im up over 150% because of luck? Wow you are an idiot lol!! There is no edge you guys. There is only the ability to watch and predict what the market is going to do next by the way it trades. Now either you can or you can't do this.

Try it again, dense guy

"I havn't the slightest clue as to what my edge possibly could be. That proves the whole "edge" thing is just a way for people... "

It is as strong proof as: "Gee, I went into the garage, so I must be a car! Gee, I went down to the docks, so I must be a cargo freighter!"

In other words, your experience doesn't prove anything. No one mentioned about your self-absorbed fascination with your little win - which is likely luck anyway. You are rather feckless...




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Quote from Mike805:

Hah... too funny. You're either kidding or just plain ignorant. Let's assume the latter.

a) An edge is a statistically significant entry and exit plan that produces profit over time. If you have an entry that is 60% right with greater than 1-1 risk to reward then you have an edge.

b) An indicator is not an edge nor is anything you mentioned. Trust in you capacities means different things to different people.... some traders can buy panic and sell greed - they have a psychological edge. Generally, "anything" cannot be an edge... what a foolish statement to say such. Charts do not provide edge.

c) An edge can be quantified by exploiting two market characteristics - Directional days and Rangebound days. Simply identifying the two behaviors can produce an edge...

d) If you don't know what your edge is be it statistical or psychological, then you are a losing trader. Period.

e) Stop with the "random entry" garbage. Markets are not random. Markets display repeated behavior patterns - people make the same mistakes over and over again. That's why markets are not random - people are not rational. If you really think that markets are random then WTF are you doing on this site anyway?

Enough. This topic has been beaten to death by some very experienced and profitable traders. Do a search.

Oh, and the answer is no - most traders do not have an edge. If the majority did then we would have a non-volatile efficient market (i.e. an academic illusion).

Regards,
Mike

perfect. couldnt have said it better myself. the edge is in the plan. no plan, no edge. pretty simple.
 
Quote from youngtrader:

So your saying im up over 150% because of luck? Wow you are an idiot lol!! There is no edge you guys. There is only the ability to watch and predict what the market is going to do next by the way it trades. Now either you can or you can't do this.

some people are just so upset that they cannot make money on their own, their edge then becomes trying to hammer anyone who can turn a profit in the markets. Who cares you cannot explain yourself, as long as you make money without throwing your neck out on every trade. I remember when I first started I became profitable before I even learned what a doji was. Then when I learned these terms they became a big joke in the board room, we would take turns yelling DOJI!!! and HARAMI!! oh man those were the days. That was a long time ago.

But buddy, you are not explaining yourself correctly as everything you look at on your screen can give you an "edge". It is all in the way you process this information in real time and how fast you react to this information will show just how sharp your edge really is.
 
Quote from PARACLESE:

some people are just so upset that they cannot make money on their own, their edge then becomes trying to hammer anyone who can turn a profit in the markets. .

This is a rather misguided wrap up. No one is unhappy that he "made 150%." He throws his anecdotal "I have no clue how i made money" as definitive proof that there is no such thing as an edge (way misguided), and then misunderstands a very basic response as somehow dissing his 150% gain. if you don't understand this, then, nothing can be said...
 
Quote from rcanfiel:

Try it again, dense guy

"I havn't the slightest clue as to what my edge possibly could be. That proves the whole "edge" thing is just a way for people... "

It is as strong proof as: "Gee, I went into the garage, so I must be a car! Gee, I went down to the docks, so I must be a cargo freighter!"

In other words, your experience doesn't prove anything. No one mentioned about your self-absorbed fascination with your little win - which is likely luck anyway. You are rather feckless...




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hey i have that same goofy picture.... :D
 
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