Do Conservatives Owe Obama A Debt of Gratitude For Ending The Clinton Nightmare?

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After 911, we had lax credit standards to stimulate the economy, well the pendulum swung to far and the feds are out of ammo to stimulate the economy. There aren't any more credit tricks in the bag, and joesixpack is out of money and credit, it should be interesting how this unfolds AND we still have our terrorist threat.

They've still got Joe's 401-k and IRA money to siphon. Wouldn't surprise me to start hearing grumblings about easing the penalties and difficulty for Joe to gain access to that money.

After that, they'll have to “encourage” the corporations to spend their profits.
 
Quote from ZZZzzzzzzz:

extemporaneously.

God damn it! what'd I do with that dictionary?
Is it here? Noo, is it there. noo. //Sigh// I'll be back latter. ---> later :D
 
So you think Hillary stands in opposition to both those who Bush helped get richer during his empire, and those who became more impoverished (which includes both the middle and lower class under Bush)...

Fascinating...

Quote from LT701:

"Why are they so afraid of this woman? Could it be that she would actually try to help the middle class"

i believe she's trying to help the middle class. Problem is, it's India's, at the American middle class's expense


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOW0cUaGWZU
 
Quote from ZZZzzzzzzz:

So you think Hillary stands in opposition to both those who Bush helped get richer during his empire, and those who became more impoverished...

Fascinating...

all i know, is that if you work in tech, it seems her mission in life is to replace you with an h-1b, or have you outsourced

http://modernpatriot.blogspot.com/2007/09/hillary-clinton-supports-destruction-of.html

b-tch literally cutting the ribbon at the opening of an indian outsourcing office in new york. this bitch hasnt worked a day of her life in this industry, and she sell out every american who did so she can get contributions. i wouldnt vote this c--t if she were running against a proven clone of Stalin

http://bp2.blogger.com/_d9PxlbCXrxA...c/eB1_hnP758g/s1600-h/Hillary-Tata+Smooch.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOW0cUaGWZU

"Clinton is successfully wooing wealthy Indian Americans, many of them business leaders with close ties to their native country and an interest in protecting outsourcing laws and expanding access to worker visas. Her campaign has held three fundraisers in the Indian American community recently, one of which raised close to $3 million, its sponsor told an Indian news organization.

But in Buffalo, the fruits of the Tata deal have been hard to find. The company, which called the arrangement Clinton's "brainchild," says "about 10" employees work here. Tata says most of the new employees were hired from around Buffalo. It declines to say whether any of the new jobs are held by foreigners, who make up 90% of Tata's 10,000-employee workforce in the United States."

The quote from John Miano at the Programmer's Guild reminds me very much of the criticisms faced by Harris Miller in last year's Virginia Dem. primary:

"It's just two-faced," said John Miano, founder of the Programmers Guild, one of several high-tech worker organizations that have sprung up as outsourcing has expanded. "We see her undermining U.S. workers and helping the offshoring business, and then she comes back to the U.S. and says, 'I'm concerned about your pain.' "

TATA or TCS, the Indian Offshore Outsourcing and H-1b bodyshop mentioned in the article imports thousands of Indian guest workers into the US to facilitate offshore outsourcing of jobs to India or replace American workers in the U.S. with imported Indian workers also in the U.S. The key in both cases is the so-called "guest worker" programs (e.g., H-1b, L-1) supposedly created because of "shortages of American workers" (a widespread myth concocted at great effort and cost by outsourcing and anti-worker lobbies).
 
There's a very long way to go before the election.

It has been pointed out here that Obama sounds good but lacks substance. As the election gets closer, he will have to start filling in the gaps.

Sounding good only gets you so far, and for so long. If he can't come up with substantive and clear policy positions, he could be in for a rude surprise.

Bullshit only gets you so far. The Zzztroll, chucky ells, and the moonbats on this board know that from experience.
 
Quote from dddooo:

Actually it's Hillary's Iraq vote that destroyed her candidacy. If she voted against the war she'd probably have an infinitely better chance against Obama or anyone else, she'd be a shoo-in...

Nah... While YOU may choose your preferred candidate based on the issues, the vast majority simply picks the guy they'd rather have a beer with. It's really just that simple.

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=1263226&highlight=hillary#post1263226

Quote from Rearden Metal:

Tradesports has the odds of Hillary winning the 2008 presidential election at around 30% (If betting <b>against</b> her chances, you risk $70 to win $30). That's free money. Hillary will never <b>ever</b> be elected president of this country.

People typically vote for the candidate they'd rather have a beer with. Who the fuck would ever get the urge to go out drinking with creepy Hillary?

I'm already short this contract, but I'm keeping my size low here. This is due to possible complications arising from the nanny-state's Jihad against online betting, combined with the 'pain in the ass factor' of transferring funds to tradesports.

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http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=1286621&highlight=hillary#post1286621

12-05-06

bsmeter2: Watch how Hillary wins the next presidency.
Rearden Metal: Never EVER gonna happen. You're so wrong it's not even funny. If Hillary wins a presidential election, I'll leave ET forever.
 
Quote from Rearden Metal:

Nah... While YOU may choose your preferred candidate based on the issues, the vast majority simply picks the guy they'd rather have a beer with.
While I tend to agree with that in general, I don't think the rule is applicable during the primaries. The republican primaries are a good example, I can't imagine people want to have a beer with McCain (the guy is booooring) when they can have a beer with Romney or Huckabee. Primary voters by and large vote on issues IMHO.
 
Quote from Rearden Metal:

Nah... While YOU may choose your preferred candidate based on the issues, the vast majority simply picks the guy they'd rather have a beer with. It's really just that simple.

Who's buying?
 
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