Do black people have a problem?

[Grandluxe]

Quote from RCG Trader:

The Asian experience and the black experience is wholly different, so much so that you will have research that yourself. That is too much to type.

As far as I know, asians were also pretty discrimnated against for much of early- mid American history. Many of their forefathers were in America on indentured labor, most of them couldnt even speak english. The Chinese exclusion act was in force until the 1940s until Roosevelt did away with it and even then it was a gesture to China fighting alongside us in WW2.

What then is the defining difference between the black and the asian experience?

 

[Mav88]

The Asian experience and the black experience is wholly different, so much so that you will have research that yourself. That is too much to type.

Note the excuse mentality. Chinese were slave laborers on the railroad, all of Korea was enslaved for nearly 20 years by Japan, Japan itself was leveled in 1945, Jews were targeted for extermination- They have all as a people raised themselves up.

 

[Tsing Tao]

Quote from RCG Trader:

NO issues with that, and if I have EVER done that here, call me on it.

Most often, when the insecure post those kinds of articles, I could easily post in kind, but as I said, there is no point. I do not get miffed, because, again, there is no point.

What I get miffed about in the real world is that employers roll over instead of taking me to task. Any company I apply to, I am an automatic hire because I am a black male, in nursing.

I have had only one DON in my 20 years challenge me, her name was Fran. She was in her late 60's and still wore supermini's to work.

She said she hired me because the company made her. But I will have to work to keep my job. In the end, of course, I was the kingmaker in my facility because I knew my shit.

So yeah, I get pissed on the one hand due to AA, but on the other hand, the government says a company has to hire according to the ratio of blacks to white in the area. So generally speaking, one black must be hired for every nine whites.

That means that the people who complain are below the tenth percentile......really?????

Sorry, I am not sympathetic to that.

Here in my company (which is about 25,000 people world wide) there is an unspoken rule in hiring - hire a diversity candidate when at all possible. Each hiring manager can take that to mean whatever he/she wants, but I know many who take that to mean "take the diversity candidate over the skilled one, if it comes down to that". I don't do that. I give everyone a fair shot regardless of skin color, gender, or whatever. But not everyone does.

What irks me on all the articles/news is that, generally, it DOES appear the media goes bonkers in a situation like the zimmerman one, but let's slide so many other issues that fit the same mold, simply because the "color" is on the other side of the equation. That's horseshit. If you want outrage over killing someone, I am the first one in line. But let's bring the outrage on all such issues - not just because it happens to fit the party line of "racism divides".

 

[Tsing Tao]

Quote from Grandluxe:

As far as I know, asians were also pretty discrimnated against for much of early- mid American history. Many of their forefathers were in America on indentured labor, most of them couldnt even speak english. The Chinese exclusion act was in force until the 1940s until Roosevelt did away with it and even then it was a gesture to China fighting alongside us in WW2.

What then is the defining difference between the black and the asian experience?

Interesting, because I cannot recall a single instance of an Asian riot (outside of Tiananmen Square) because of rights or freedom repression. I certainly haven't heard any Asians going nuts over being excluded or prejudiced in some regard.

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[RCG Trader]

Quote from Tsing Tao:

Here in my company (which is about 25,000 people world wide) there is an unspoken rule in hiring - hire a diversity candidate when at all possible. Each hiring manager can take that to mean whatever he/she wants, but I know many who take that to mean "take the diversity candidate over the skilled one, if it comes down to that". I don't do that. I give everyone a fair shot regardless of skin color, gender, or whatever. But not everyone does.

What irks me on all the articles/news is that, generally, it DOES appear the media goes bonkers in a situation like the zimmerman one, but let's slide so many other issues that fit the same mold, simply because the "color" is on the other side of the equation. That's horseshit. If you want outrage over killing someone, I am the first one in line. But let's bring the outrage on all such issues - not just because it happens to fit the party line of "racism divides".

Can't argue that either.

One reason why I have not posted to all the Zimmerman threads that cropped up. I do not have all the details. But the state should have Zimmerman face a jury of his peers.

As far as minority hirings go, as I said, I have seen this personally. Qualifications need to be taken into account. When I get sick, I will be looking for the best doctor, point blank, the end. AA cannot be filling slots in this kind of work because eventually they will go out and kill somebody.

My issue with the right is that they attack welfare. Okay, no worries there, but attack ALL kinds of welfare, not just one subgroup.

 

[Mav88]

RCG,

I wish all blacks were like you, I mean that. You might hate me, but at least you would not kill me and you are a productive citizen. You understand that there are opportunities for blacks with motivation, you know the value of training.

That's what I want from blacks. You can't understand that, can you? You can't understand that blacks do threaten me either directly through violence or indirectly by being an economic liability, can you?

 

[Tsing Tao]

Quote from RCG Trader:

Can't argue that either.

One reason why I have not posted to all the Zimmerman threads that cropped up. I do not have all the details. But the state should have Zimmerman face a jury of his peers.

As far as minority hirings go, as I said, I have seen this personally. Qualifications need to be taken into account. When I get sick, I will be looking for the best doctor, point blank, the end. AA cannot be filling slots in this kind of work because eventually they will go out and kill somebody.

My issue with the right is that they attack welfare. Okay, no worries there, but attack ALL kinds of welfare, not just one subgroup.

Re: the welfare argument, I absolutely agree.

 

[Mav88]

One reason why I have not posted to all the Zimmerman threads that cropped up. I do not have all the details. But the state should have Zimmerman face a jury of his peers.

I am waiting for the all facts, Zimmerman could be lying, I do not know.

My issue with the right is that they attack welfare. Okay, no worries there, but attack ALL kinds of welfare, not just one subgroup.

I agree, I have been consistent on that, ALL welfare needs looking at. Farm subsidies, SSI, SSDI, Medicare, ect.

You know though that if I do say something, Jesse Jackson calls me racist?

 

[PHOENIX TRADING]

Quote from Mav88:

Blacks have been given every chance and when they fail they always claim racism- the permanent excuse. Defeat me? Hell all I want blacks to do is stop sucking off the gov't, what's with the defeat nonsense, economics is win-win if blacks would just get off their asses.

In science and engineering there is actually so much gov't cash thrown at blacks that they can't spend it all. It's quite sad, look around any international conference in anything technical. Blacks were 'let in' long ago and have failed to achieve. We whites don't see it as being defeated since the Chinese dominate S&T now. Blacks are about the only group that complains about being 'let in', others simply make their own prosperity.

The world over it's primarily an IQ problem , secondarily it's a cultural problem.
Those are the facts , the real INCONVENIENT TRUTH .

 

[PHOENIX TRADING]

Quote from RCG Trader:

The Asian experience and the black experience is wholly different, so much so that you will have research that yourself. That is too much to type.

Yeah they have cultural values that encourage achievement and are not handicapped by low average IQ.