DNC not hacked?

This theory (which is far more likely) has been floating around for a long time. Of course, it doesn't fit the "Kill Russians, they are all evil and communist" narrative, so it was easily discarded. Watch the slight-of-hand by the media, right?
 
"Former NSA experts say it wasn’t a hack at all"

I wouldn't expect Mueller and company to take the word of "Former NSA experts". "Former intelligence experts" have said 9-11 was an inside job,Obama's birth certificate was fake and numerous other nutty conspiracy theories.
 
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"Former NSA experts say it wasn’t a hack at all"

I wouldn't expect Mueller and company to take the word of "Former NSA experts". "Former intelligence experts" have said 9-11 was an inside job,Obama's birth certificate was fake and numerous other nutty conspiracy theories.

But they should take the word of Crowdstrike and not even look at the physical evidence.

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This theory (which is far more likely) has been floating around for a long time. Of course, it doesn't fit the "Kill Russians, they are all evil and communist" narrative, so it was easily discarded. Watch the slight-of-hand by the media, right?

Quite so. When Debbie Wasserman and company howl like wolves about russian hacking of the DNC but then refuse to let the FBI look at their server for digital fingerprints, then your Bullshit-o-Meter should start flashing yellow and red lights bigly.

Also, I dont think this situation helped Seth Rich's health any.

Oh, and did I mention that the Pakistani snakes who worked with Debbie had access to the DNC via her passwords?

Mueller will look at all of this of course.......NOT. Let's get real.
 
They took the word of Crowdstrike in order to claim a crime took place.

Then they took the word of GPS Fusion's pissgate dossier to claim there was collusion between Trump and the crime.

Then they start beating down doors in pre dawn raids to get the crooks.


With Hillary, they didn't even put her under oath or record the questioning.

They gave her aids immunity in exchange for nothing.

They let her team turn in their phones with the sim cards removed.

They they claim there's nothing to see.


And one other thing. They think we're stupid.
 
"Former NSA experts say it wasn’t a hack at all"

I wouldn't expect Mueller and company to take the word of "Former NSA experts". "Former intelligence experts" have said 9-11 was an inside job,Obama's birth certificate was fake and numerous other nutty conspiracy theories.

No, of course not. But if "Former NSA Experts" had said Trump had ties to a Russian whorehouse, you'd be posting 14 or 15 threads on it.
 
Now we know why a few democrats have been stepping back from this story.
This is going to destroy them... if true.

Now will Sessions make sure McCabe and Wassermans brother and their friends are kept in the alaska offices until this is finished. we need the truth... not dnc lies and dnc trolls.

It looks like the leak was thumbstick download. I wonder who could have done that. Why we cant vouch for this stuff yet... if true this seems to almost conclusively prove it was not the russians who did this particular hack of the DNC.

this is very detailed info. If it did not come for the meta data... I would expect denials to come out within 24 to 48 hours.


"Forensicator’s first decisive findings, made public in the paper dated July 9, concerned the volume of the supposedly hacked material and what is called the transfer rate—the time a remote hack would require. The metadata established several facts in this regard with granular precision: On the evening of July 5, 2016, 1,976 megabytes of data were downloaded from the DNC’s server. The operation took 87 seconds. This yields a transfer rate of 22.7 megabytes per second.

These statistics are matters of record and essential to disproving the hack theory. No Internet service provider, such as a hacker would have had to use in mid-2016, was capable of downloading data at this speed. Compounding this contradiction, Guccifer claimed to have run his hack from Romania, which, for numerous reasons technically called delivery overheads, would slow down the speed of a hack even further from maximum achievable speeds."


“A speed of 22.7 megabytes is simply unobtainable, especially if we are talking about a transoceanic data transfer,” Folden said. “Based on the data we now have, what we’ve been calling a hack is impossible.” Last week Forensicator reported on a speed test he conducted more recently. It tightens the case considerably. “Transfer rates of 23 MB/s (Mega Bytes per second) are not just highly unlikely, but effectively impossible to accomplish when communicating over the Internet at any significant distance,” he wrote. “Further, local copy speeds are measured, demonstrating that 23 MB/s is a typical transfer rate when using a USB–2 flash device (thumb drive).”




https://www.thenation.com/article/a-new-report-raises-big-questions-about-last-years-dnc-hack/

Lost in a year that often appeared to veer into our peculiarly American kind of hysteria is the absence of any credible evidence of what happened last year and who was responsible for it. It is tiresome to note, but none has been made available. Instead, we are urged to accept the word of institutions and senior officials with long records of deception. These officials profess “high confidence” in their “assessment” as to what happened in the spring and summer of last year—this standing as their authoritative judgment. Few have noticed since these evasive terms first appeared that an assessment is an opinion, nothing more, and to express high confidence is an upside-down way of admitting the absence of certain knowledge. This is how officials avoid putting their names on the assertions we are so strongly urged to accept—as the record shows many of them have done.

We come now to a moment of great gravity.

There has been a long effort to counter the official narrative we now call “Russiagate.” This effort has so far focused on the key events noted above, leaving numerous others still to be addressed. Until recently, researchers undertaking this work faced critical shortcomings, and these are to be explained. But they have achieved significant new momentum in the past several weeks, and what they have done now yields very consequential fruit. Forensic investigators, intelligence analysts, system designers, program architects, and computer scientists of long experience and strongly credentialed are now producing evidence disproving the official version of key events last year. Their work is intricate and continues at a kinetic pace as we speak. But its certain results so far are two, simply stated, and freighted with implications:

  • There was no hack of the Democratic National Committee’s system on July 5 last year—not by the Russians, not by anyone else. Hard science now demonstrates it was a leak—a download executed locally with a memory key or a similarly portable data-storage device. In short, it was an inside job by someone with access to the DNC’s system. This casts serious doubt on the initial “hack,” as alleged, that led to the very consequential publication of a large store of documents on WikiLeaks last summer.
  • Forensic investigations of documents made public two weeks prior to the July 5 leak by the person or entity known as Guccifer 2.0 show that they were fraudulent: Before Guccifer posted them they were adulterated by cutting and pasting them into a blank template that had Russian as its default language. Guccifer took responsibility on June 15 for an intrusion the DNC reported on June 14 and professed to be a WikiLeaks source—claims essential to the official narrative implicating Russia in what was soon cast as an extensive hacking operation. To put the point simply, forensic science now devastates this narrative.
This article is based on an examination of the documents these forensic experts and intelligence analysts have produced, notably the key papers written over the past several weeks, as well as detailed interviews with many of those conducting investigations and now drawing conclusions from them. Before proceeding into this material, several points bear noting.
 
Now we know why a few democrats have been stepping back from this story.
This is going to destroy them... if true.


I'm more concerned about Obama's real birth certificate being discovered.
 
https://www.thenation.com/article/a-new-report-raises-big-questions-about-last-years-dnc-hack/

Behind the ICA lie other indefensible realities. The FBI has never examined the DNC’s computer servers—an omission that is beyond preposterous. It has instead relied on the reports produced by Crowdstrike, a firm that drips with conflicting interests well beyond the fact that it is in the DNC’s employ. Dmitri Alperovitch, its co-founder and chief technology officer, is on the record as vigorously anti-Russian. He is a senior fellow at the Atlantic Council, which suffers the same prejudice. Problems such as this are many.

“We continue to stand by our report,” CrowdStrike said, upon seeing the VIPS blueprint of the investigation. CrowdStrike argues that by July 5 all malware had been removed from the DNC’s computers. But the presence or absence of malware by that time is entirely immaterial, because the event of July 5 is proven to have been a leak and not a hack. Given that malware has nothing to do with leaks, CrowdStrike’s logic appears to be circular.

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I concluded each of the interviews conducted for this column by asking for a degree of confidence in the new findings. These are careful, exacting people as a matter of professional training and standards, and I got careful, exacting replies.

All those interviewed came in between 90 percent and 100 percent certain that the forensics prove out. I have already quoted Skip Folden’s answer: impossible based on the data. “The laws of physics don’t lie,” Ray McGovern volunteered at one point. “It’s QED, theorem demonstrated,” William Binney said in response to my question. “There’s no evidence out there to get me to change my mind.” When I asked Edward Loomis, a 90 percent man, about the 10 percent he held out, he replied, “I’ve looked at the work and it shows there was no Russian hack. But I didn’t do the work. That’s the 10 percent. I’m a scientist.”
 
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