DJIA vs DIA candle chart different

Quote from Moderate:

dia = includes dividends
djia= no dividends

The DJIA does include the effect of dividends.

How would an index calculation ignore the ex-dividends of the component stocks?
 
Quote from NoEmotions:

I want to trade candlestick chart similar to DJIA ( no dividends ) ...as day trading or max overnight tading..... so I really don't care about dividends included in price calculation.

I am thinking I will need to enter./exit all 30 dow stocks at the same time.

what formula can I used to calculate % of each company in dow 30 ?

is there any other way ?

can someone please point me in right direction ...
any links will also help...

The DJIA is an artificial construct and not tradeable. The DJIA relects the last traded price of the 30 component stocks. The last trade could have been at or on either side of the component's current bids and offers. If you buy the 30 component socks you will be buying at or near the current offers. If you sell the 30 component socks you will be selling at or near the current bids. Either buying or selling all 30 component stocks you will be away from the last DJIA quoted number.

The DIA and YM futures are the trading vehicles for the DJIA. Index arbitrage keeps both of them in line with the DJIA during regular stock trading hours. Any differences between DIA/YM and the DJIA are due to noise created by the trading reality of very short term buy/sell demand pressures.
 
Quote from clacy:

Buying DIA is like buy all 30 stocks at the same time (market cap weighted). Do you think buying all 30 stocks is going to match the DJIA?

Why don't you just look at the DJIA charts, and trade DIA or YM? They will move nearly identical to one another.

The fact is you cannot actually trade the DJIA except through another vehihcle, such as DIA or YM. It is what it is...

DJIA is a price weighted index.
 
Quote from jeb9999:

Of course I noticed that you were talking about DIA.

I politely pointed out that you provided incorrect information and yet you insist on being ignorant.

In order to match the DJIA the DIA is also price weighted.

Just look at the "Fund Top Holdings":

https://www.spdrs.com/product/fund.seam?ticker=dia

6,667,290 shares of each component stock.

You are correct. I guess the point I wast trying to make is that DIA is not an equal weight ETF.

I'm not aware of an equal weight etf for the DJIA
 
Quote from NoEmotions:

I have been watching DJIA index for quiet a long time. I think I understand this chart well.

My issue is I understand DJIA cannot be traded.
The problem is DIA daily candle chart is very different then DJIA daily candle chart.
Even futures chart is different.

Is there anyway I can trade DJIA indirectly like one thought comes to my mind is buying/selling all 30 stocks of DJIA, but then DIA is doing the same and its chart is different ?

I am looking for any alternative ways even if it involves programming.

Thanks,
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No Emotions;
You may not believe this but DIA is much more accurate,
it includes '' Emotions''. DJIA includes ''No emotions''/no comissions'/no slippage.................................' As if anyone can trade with no emotions/no slippage/no comissions:D

Paul Tudor Jones did something like that;
but not really applicable to your question/volume/situation.

Many of the DOW S&P indexes ;
dont even have volume, that maybe a clue also:cool:And as a helpful hint technical analysis is defined as study of price AND volume.................................................................................
 
thx all fpr replay...

For daytrading...
The reason I like DJIA candlestick chart is because of less noise....
I thought if I can reproduce price candlesticks of DJIA with some instruments then I can take advantage of less noise to apply even tighter stop losses.
With DIA, e-mini dow etc.. noise is a very vital component which forces me to put little larger stops.
 
Quote from jeb9999:

DJIA is a price weighted index.


The DJIA is calculated by adding up the last price of each component then divide by 0.1321749
 
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