DirecTV to Drop One America News in Blow to Conservative Channel

You have the right to all the free speech you want in the U.S. — you just don’t have the right to demand cable TV providers carry your ranting insanity. Nor do you have the right to demand that private social media sites endure your twisted posts and not scrub them for violating their posting guidelines. You are free to post your crap on your own website which you pay for — but don’t be surprised when no one goes & views your junk.


This is why FB has so many people getting the law wrong and claiming some fantasy freedom of speech....90% of the U.S. population has no understanding of the law.

"Congress shall make no law . . . . abridging the freedom of speech"


Constitution does not say you have the right to free speech.... just says Congress (and extended to the State) shall not pass laws that abridge the freedom of speech. We all know this was interpreted by the SC to then mean without good cause or due process. Even in this scenerio it is not absolute.

But NO WHERE does it say you have some guaranteed right to free speech.

Sick and tired watching asshats online claiming 1st amendment rights when most of them cannot even cite the 1st amendment.
 
This is why FB has so many people getting the law wrong and claiming some fantasy freedom of speech....90% of the U.S. population has no understanding of the law.

"Congress shall make no law . . . . abridging the freedom of speech"


Constitution does not say you have the right to free speech.... just says Congress (and extended to the State) shall not pass laws that abridge the freedom of speech. We all know this was interpreted by the SC to then mean without good cause or due process. Even in this scenerio it is not absolute.

But NO WHERE does it say you have some guaranteed right to free speech.

Sick and tired watching asshats online claiming 1st amendment rights when most of them cannot even cite the 1st amendment.
In fairness GWB flip flops on what he considers "cancel culture" and railed against us who were making the identical argument he is now making.
 
In fairness GWB flip flops on what he considers "cancel culture" and railed against us who were making the identical argument he is now making.

I have carefully defined Cancel Culture many times. You just seem incapable of understanding the definition.
 
I have carefully defined Cancel Culture many times. You just seem incapable of understanding the definition.
:rolleyes:

So this is what is being given as evidence that Gina Carano is racist and needs to be cancelled. She actually liked articles from parody site The Babylon Bee --- oh, the insensitivity. Then she commented once on BLM protestor yelled at an elderly couple -- oh, the inhumanity. CANCEL HER NOW!


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Oh course she had this one tweet about voting fraud. This is the tweet being given as an example she is racist because she wanted protections against voting fraud. CANCEL HER NOW!


It is now very clear that cancel culture has gone too far.

NBC was behind pushing Google to defund advertising for The Federalist and ZeroHedge...

NBC News under fire for apparently pushing Google to remove conservative sites from ad platform
https://www.foxnews.com/media/nbc-news-google-federalist-zerohedge-ads

NBC News is facing intense backlash for apparently influencing Google to punish two conservative news sites over what was deemed offensive coverage of the George Floyd protests.

In a report published Tuesday afternoon, NBC News claimed Google "banned" The Federalist and ZeroHedge from Google Ads for "pushing unsubstantiated claims" about the Black Lives Matter movement. Google later pushed back, claiming that The Federalist "was never demonetized," and adding, "We worked with them to address issues on their site related to the comments section."

"We have strict publisher policies that govern the content ads can run on and explicitly prohibit derogatory content that promotes hatred, intolerance, violence or discrimination based on race from monetizing," a Google spokesperson initially told NBC News. NBC, however, did not link to the "derogatory content" from The Federalist or ZeroHedge.

In addition, it appeared it was NBC News' inquiry into the matter that prompted Google's actions in the first place.

"Google's ban of the websites comes after the company was notified of research conducted by the Center for Countering Digital Hate, a British nonprofit that combats online hate and misinformation. They found that 10 U.S-based websites have published what they say are racist articles about the protests, and projected that the websites would make millions of dollars through Google Ads," NBC News reported.

The report continued, "Google blocked The Federalist from its advertising platform after the NBC News Verification Unit brought the project to its attention. ZeroHedge had already been demonetized prior to NBC News’ inquiry, Google said."

NBC News' Adele-Momoko Fraser, the London-based journalist behind the report, appeared to celebrate the results of her reporting by thanking the two groups "for their hard work and collaboration." She also used the Black Lives Matter hashtag.

She quickly deleted the tweet and reshared it but without the activist hashtag.

NBC News Verification Unit executive producer Ruaridh Arrow appeared similarly to delete a tweet that included the #BlackLivesMatter hashtag.

Arrow later clarified that the hashtag was included in his tweet "because the story concerned that movement" and that it was "not an indication of support for it and has now deleted for clarity."

Later Tuesday afternoon, Adweek reporter Scott Nover said that according to a Google spokesperson, NBC News got it "wrong" and that The Federalist "could be demonetized" but has not.

The Google spokesperson also suggested to Nover that the site's "comments section" was in violation of Google's policies but not any of its articles.

Google later addressed the controversy and appeared to debunk some of NBC News' reporting.

"The Federalist was never demonetized," Google Communications tweeted. "We worked with them to address issues on their site related to the comments section. Our policies do not allow ads to run against dangerous or derogatory content, which includes comments on sites, and we offer guidance and best practices to publishers on how to comply."

A Google spokesperson reiterated to Fox News, "To be clear, The Federalist is not currently demonetized. We do have strict publisher policies that govern the content ads can run on, which includes comments on the site. This is a longstanding policy."

Google later tweeted regarding The Federalist, "As the comment section has now been removed, we consider this matter resolved and no action will be taken."

NBC News was slammed on social media for what has been described as "activism" in addition to what appeared to have been faulty reporting.

"Working to get websites you don't like demonetized by Google isn't journalism, it's activism," CNN editor Kyle Feldscher tweeted.


"If you have a problem with ZeroHedge and/or The Federalist, write an article about what they got wrong and why that matters. That would be an act of journalism. Instead, NBC mounts a pressure campaign on Google to suffocate opinions NBC doesn’t like," Daily Caller editor Vince Coglianese reacted.

"It’s heartbreaking that journalists, of all people, would be leading the charge to deplatform outlets they don’t like. Besides undermining the basic principals of our profession, this will come back to bite us. Cancel Snitch Journalism," Bloomberg Opinion columnist Eli Lake tweeted.

"At a time when conservatives (and Democrats!) are scheming to take away Big Tech's liability protection, it does not strike me as tactically sound for Google to argue that The Federalist should be held responsible for its comments section," Reason senior editor Robby Soave said.

Critics also pointed out that NBC News changed its report, which added, "Google notified The Federalist on Tuesday of policy violations. It now has three days to remove the violations before the ban goes into effect." However, the quote from the Google spokesperson indicating that both The Federalist and ZeroHedge already had been "banned" from the ad platform still remained in the article.

In another update, NBC News changed its headline to only reflect ZeroHedge and accused Google of "backtracking" from its original statement to the outlet. The report also removed the claim that the sites' "articles" were in violation of Google's policies rather than the comments sections from their articles.

NBC News did not immediately respond to Fox News' request for comment. Fox News also attempted to reach out to the NBC News Verification Center directly.
 

Pushing someone to be fired, protesting outside their home, raising an internet mob to abuse them, and threatening them for their speech is pretty much cancel culture. If their speech or actions was against the written standards of the corporation that employs them (e.g. sexual harassment) then you would have a case that it is legitimate corporate action to dismiss them rather than Cancel Culture. Likewise dropping a show based on business revenue situations is very different than dropping a show because an online mob has been sending threats to the network executives demanding the show be cancelled or urging boycotts, etc.

In regards to NBC New starting a campaign to defund advertising at your competitors actually a step beyond cancel culture -- it is actually commercial sabotage.
 
Pushing someone to be fired, protesting outside their home, raising an internet mob to abuse them, and threatening them for their speech is pretty much cancel culture. If their speech or actions was against the written standards of the corporation that employs them (e.g. sexual harassment) then you would have a case that it is legitimate corporate action to dismiss them rather than Cancel Culture. Likewise dropping a show based on business revenue situations is very different than dropping a show because an online mob has been sending threats to the network executives demanding the show be cancelled or urging boycotts, etc.

In regards to NBC New starting a campaign to defund advertising at your competitors actually a step beyond cancel culture -- it is actually commercial sabotage.

And you have proof OANN violated terms of comps dropping them and said providers not just giving in to public pressure and potential revenue loss right? Neither of the quoted said anything about mobs outside their homes or abuse or threats.
 
Nearly no one goes to the OANN website on the internet -- this can be seen by the statistics for their website. People on the right who want news are far more likely to go to FOX News, Newsmax, NY Post, etc. online -- OANN is barely mentioned or linked for news on the internet.

The entire business model of OANN is based on fees from cable channel carriers and on-air commercials. OANN is now effectively defunct and has been reduced to publicly begging for other cable TV carriers to take them back.

One America News loses Verizon TV deal, begs for access to Comcast or Charter
Right-wing network was already in dire straits after getting booted from DirecTV.
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy...v-deal-begs-for-access-to-comcast-or-charter/

Indeed, we got the notice on our Verizon FIOS that they are dropping OAN effective July 31st. And because they are a part of the same company, we're also losing AWE, which was basically a silly channel showing people buying large yachts and mansions and jets. Good riddance.
 
Indeed, we got the notice on our Verizon FIOS that they are dropping OAN effective July 31st. And because they are a part of the same company, we're also losing AWE, which was basically a silly channel showing people buying large yachts and mansions and jets. Good riddance.

For Verizon this is a business decision about removing channels with low viewership (or groups of related channels with low viewership). There are more profitable things they can do with the bandwidth.
 
And you have proof OANN violated terms of comps dropping them and said providers not just giving in to public pressure and potential revenue loss right? Neither of the quoted said anything about mobs outside their homes or abuse or threats.

Let's carefully once again read the statement from Verizon.

"Our negotiation with OAN has been a typical, business as usual carriage negotiation like those that routinely happen between content distributors and content providers. These negotiations were focused on economics, as they always are, but OAN failed to agree to fair terms."

This was a pure business decision. Additionally it should be noted there was no organized public campaign to cancel the channel on Verizon

It is interesting to note that OAN on-air started to disparage Verizon many weeks before the dropping of the Herring Networks channels was publicly announced. Obviously they were trying to pressure Verizon in the financial negotiations but in the end it is OAN (Herring Networks) which failed to agree to a financial deal causing the network to be dropped on Verizon.

Now the OAN CEO is trying to blame the dropping of the network on a mysterious “somebody”. Maybe the CEO should take a look at why his failed leadership led to such low viewership.

One America News Owner Blames Mysterious ‘Somebody’ for Allegedly Blacklisting Network from Cable
https://www.mediaite.com/tv/one-ame...or-allegedly-blacklisting-network-from-cable/
 
Let's carefully once again read the statement from Verizon.

"Our negotiation with OAN has been a typical, business as usual carriage negotiation like those that routinely happen between content distributors and content providers. These negotiations were focused on economics, as they always are, but OAN failed to agree to fair terms."

This was a pure business decision. Additionally it should be noted there was no organized public campaign to cancel the channel on Verizon

It is interesting to note that OAN on-air started to disparage Verizon many weeks before the dropping of the Herring Networks channels was publicly announced. Obviously they were trying to pressure Verizon in the financial negotiations but in the end it is OAN (Herring Networks) which failed to agree to a financial deal causing the network to be dropped on Verizon.

Now the OAN CEO is trying to blame the dropping of the network on a mysterious “somebody”. Maybe the CEO should take a look at why his failed leadership led to such low viewership.

One America News Owner Blames Mysterious ‘Somebody’ for Allegedly Blacklisting Network from Cable
https://www.mediaite.com/tv/one-ame...or-allegedly-blacklisting-network-from-cable/

This helps your case absolutely fuck all. "OAN failed to agree to fair terms" could mean a litany of things including content, so your "failed to agree to financial deal" statement is throwing shit at the wall and seeing if it sticks. "there was no organized campaign to cancel OAN" means what exactly? You think people blowing up their phone lines is different than people picketing outside establishments for some reason?

Listen, OAN being gone is good riddance, just don't tell me this is "different" and a publisher dropping Dr. Seuss books is "cancel culture"
 
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