Different triple MAs?

Quote from spike500:

The fact that you have to use different settings depending on the item you trade leads to the following conclusion:

3MA's are worthless because you have to optimize them to get returns. Take another period for the same item and you will have to optimize again. You will always be running behind the facts and always be too late.

MA's are only valid in the long run and to take parts of the big trending moves. They are not very efficient.
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I am not sure of what you mean by "optimize".

i disagree that moving average are only good in the long run...

here is a graph of QQQQ with a very short term moving average. 1-3-5 day. If i change that to a 7 20, 90 day moving average, the trade becomes unprofitable.

sorry for the bloomberg in spanish....
 
Quote from dac8555:

I am not sure of what you mean by "optimize".

i disagree that moving average are only good in the long run...

here is a graph of QQQQ with a very short term moving average. 1-3-5 day. If i change that to a 7 20, 90 day moving average, the trade becomes unprofitable.

sorry for the bloomberg in spanish....
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didnt upload...my bad. i guess we will just have to imagine!
 
Quote from risktaker:

None of that stuff works. Neither do ma's, double ma's, triple ma's, quadruple ma's. You need something more unique.

On second thought, the problem is not your system so much as *where* you apply it and 95% of ETF's aren't the place for ma systems.
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The unique aspect is that the time frame for the MAs is customized to where they DO work...I wish my stinking bloomberg screen would upload!!!!!

YOu are right that if you take the average 4-9-15 or 50-100 day moving average, it will not prove to be profitable.
 
there it is. ok now here is a triple moving average on the qqqq with a much longer term moving average...you are lucky to break even. whereas the previos obviosly made $$.

IS this the first time you have heard of this? it seems that most people use 1 system, and test the securities to see if they work for the system...rather than adjusting the system to meet the security.
 

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dac8555, be careful! This advice is a nonsense.
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cnms2,
I love your kind of nonlinear jerks. Hope to see you put some money in the market soon.
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nononsense
 
looks like the first graph yield about 8-10 points of upside potential whereas "buy and hold" would have been roughly half that...
 
Can you combine it with Parabolic SAR? When your MA signals are saying "buy" (whichever crossover that is), maybe check for confirmation from Parabolic SAR, too. I'd post a chart but I'm at work and don't feel like going on stockcharts.com right now.

Maybe you shouldn't listen to me. I'm a noob :)
 
I suggest you read Alexander Elder's "Come into my trading room ''. It explains how to put together a swing trading system.
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there it is. ok now here is a triple moving average on the qqqq with a much longer term moving average...you are lucky to break even. whereas the previous obviously made $$.

IS this the first time you have heard of this? it seems that most people use 1 system, and test the securities to see if they work for the system...rather than adjusting the system to meet the security.
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here is the parabolic chart. bloomberg woulndt let me do both at the same time. i played with the AF factor of the parabolics. lokks like it does close to te same thing with a .1 af factor (whatever the hell that is). nice call.

it still has the problem of late signals. i think with parabolics too you can maybe add a fator of saying "if the price drops below the previoc days low, exit the trade until another buy signal is given" or something to that effect.
 

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