Didn't Obama claim all the Chemical weapons were removed from Syria?

So you support sending hundreds of thousands of troops and spending trillions of tax payer dollars for regime change in Syria? And don't discount the possibility of Russia going all in to prevent that from happening.

And the deaths in another country's war is Obama's fault?

I never blamed Obama. I simply exposed Obama as the liar he is. He put up this big red line which turned out to be an absolute joke, then he made this ridiculous claim that he got rid of all chemical weapons in Syria.

This bozo also made a claim that his big Iran deal is going to prevent Iran from getting nukes. Unfortunately, he is likely going to be just as wrong on that. The guy is a joke, his Presidency was a joke, and the best thing for the country would be if stayed in Fiji and never returned.
 
I never blamed Obama. I simply exposed Obama as the liar he is. He put up this big red line which turned out to be an absolute joke, then he made this ridiculous claim that he got rid of all chemical weapons in Syria.

This bozo also made a claim that his big Iran deal is going to prevent Iran from getting nukes. Unfortunately, he is likely going to be just as wrong on that. The guy is a joke, his Presidency was a joke, and the best thing for the country would be if stayed in Fiji and never returned.

1.CaptainObvious blamed Obama for 500,000 deaths on the other side of the world,thats who I was responding to.

2.His red was indeed a huge mistake,one of the biggest in his presidency.

3.Obama got Syria to get rid of 1,300 tons of chemical weapons.Maybe they were able to hide some or maybe they made more.Sarin gas can be made in a basement hidden from satellites and inspectors in a few weeks.

4.Unlike Bush with N Korea,Iran did not get nukes on Obamas watch.If Iran gets nukes 10,15,20 years from now that is not Obamas fault.Its up to the current president to stop them from getting nukes under their watch,as Obama did.Obama left more than enough time for future Presidents to stop Iran from getting nukes if they tried.
 
So you support sending hundreds of thousands of troops and spending trillions of tax payer dollars for regime change in Syria? And don't discount the possibility of Russia going all in to prevent that from happening.

And the deaths in another country's war is Obama's fault?

Hey Tony...who spent more on wars, Bush or Obama?
 
Hey Tony...who spent more on wars, Bush or Obama?


Not sure,but I know a lot has been spent on the wars Bush started.Far more than any military action Obama started.Bush also doubled military spending during his 8 years while Obama kept it close to levels they were when he came into office.
 
Hey Tony...who spent more on wars, Bush or Obama?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...63623d80a60_story.html?utm_term=.f5d839910b43

Study: Iraq, Afghan war costs to top $4 trillion

By Ernesto Londoño March 28, 2013

The U.S. wars in Afghanistan and Iraq will cost taxpayers $4 trillion to $6 trillion, taking into account the medical care of wounded veterans and expensive repairs to a force depleted by more than a decade of fighting, according to a new study by a Harvard researcher.

Washington increased military benefits in late 2001 as the nation went to war, seeking to quickly bolster its talent pool and expand its ranks. Those decisions and the protracted nation-building efforts launched in both countries will generate expenses for years to come, Linda J. Bilmes, a public policy professor, wrote in the report that was released Thursday.

“As a consequence of these wartime spending choices, the United States will face constraints in funding investments in personnel and diplomacy, research and development and new military initiatives,” the report says. “The legacy of decisions taken during the Iraq and Afghanistan wars will dominate future federal budgets for decades to come.”

Bilmes said the United States has spent almost $2 trillion already for the military campaigns in Afghanistan and Iraq. Those costs, she said, are only a fraction of the ultimate price tag. The biggest ongoing expense will be providing medical care and disability benefits to veterans of the two conflicts.

“Historically, the bill for these costs has come due many decades later,” the report says, noting that the peak disbursement of disability payments for America’s warriors in the last century came decades after the conflicts ended. “Payments to Vietnam and first Gulf War veterans are still climbing.”

Spending borrowed money to pay for the wars has also made them more expensive, the study noted. The conflicts have added $2 trillion to America’s debt, representing roughly 20 percent of the debt incurred between 2001 and 2012.

Bilmes’s estimate provides a higher range than another authoritative study on the same issue by Brown University’s Eisenhower Research Project. Brown researchers put the price tag at roughly $4 trillion.

Both figures are dramatically higher than what U.S. officials projected they would spend when they were planning to go to war in Iraq. Stephen Friedman, a senior White House official, left government in 2002 after irking his colleagues by publicly estimating that the Iraq war could end up costing up to $200 billion.

It’s unclear how long Washington will keep paying bills for that conflict, which dragged on for nearly a decade and became deeply unpopular at home and in Iraq. Judging from history, it could take quite awhile. The Associated Press recently found that the federal government is still cutting checks each month to relatives of Civil War veterans nearly 150 years after the end of that war.
 
So you support sending hundreds of thousands of troops and spending trillions of tax payer dollars for regime change in Syria? And don't discount the possibility of Russia going all in to prevent that from happening.

And the deaths in another country's war is Obama's fault?
This is nothing more than a political debate for us, meanwhile tens of thousands die on a regular basis. I'm saying cut the bullshit lie that we're some great fucking humanitarians pretending to give a shit while doing nothing of substance. I can fault Trump for some things, but I can't fault him for taking a look at this horror show and saying god dammit, we got to do something other than send another strongly worded letter of our displeasure. You and the rest want to let these people die in the slaughter, then have the balls to come out and say it outright. Fuck'em, let'em die. At a minimum have the decency to shut your fucking mouths about how much you care.
 
This is nothing more than a political debate for us, meanwhile tens of thousands die on a regular basis. I'm saying cut the bullshit lie that we're some great fucking humanitarians pretending to give a shit while doing nothing of substance. I can fault Trump for some things, but I can't fault him for taking a look at this horror show and saying god dammit, we got to do something other than send another strongly worded letter of our displeasure. You and the rest want to let these people die in the slaughter, then have the balls to come out and say it outright. Fuck'em, let'em die. At a minimum have the decency to shut your fucking mouths about how much you care.

I do agree, my criticism of Trump hasn't been over taking action in Syria, it's been over the sheer hypocrisy of supporters wanting non-intervention and then changing their tune because the lord emperor says so or having opposed Obama's own positions on the issue. The democrats were slammed for wanting to intervene but it sure would've been much better back then before Russia got involved.

That's to say if the reasons are truly altruistic and not some smoke screen to hide the investigations/criticisms back home.
 
This is nothing more than a political debate for us, meanwhile tens of thousands die on a regular basis. I'm saying cut the bullshit lie that we're some great fucking humanitarians pretending to give a shit while doing nothing of substance. I can fault Trump for some things, but I can't fault him for taking a look at this horror show and saying god dammit, we got to do something other than send another strongly worded letter of our displeasure. You and the rest want to let these people die in the slaughter, then have the balls to come out and say it outright. Fuck'em, let'em die. At a minimum have the decency to shut your fucking mouths about how much you care.

What did Trumps little missile strike do? Nothing.The war continues and Assads planes were flying from the base trump hit the next day.The Iraq and Afghan wars will cost over 5 trillion minimum,likely much much more with interest on the borrowed money to pay for it and long term healthcare and disability costs for wounded troops.You may feel we should spend another 5 trillion + on Syria,but I do not
 
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Not sure,but I know a lot has been spent on the wars Bush started.Far more than any military action Obama started.Bush also doubled military spending during his 8 years while Obama kept it close to levels they were when he came into office.

Clinton never increased spending and then we got attacked on our own soil so that might tell you something.

But for the record, average annual military spending under Bush for 8 years was $628 billion.

Average annual military spending under Obama for 8 years was $780 billion.

Bush's military spending low to high $391B - $754B
Obamas military spending low to high $731B - $836B

Basically Obamas lowest year military spending was nearly twice Bush's lowest.
 
Clinton never increased spending and then we got attacked on our own soil so that might tell you something.

But for the record, average annual military spending under Bush for 8 years was $628 billion.

Average annual military spending under Obama for 8 years was $780 billion.

Bush's military spending low to high $391B - $754B
Obamas military spending low to high $731B - $836B

Basically Obamas lowest year military spending was nearly twice Bush's lowest.

When Bush came into office defense spending was around 335 billion,when he left it was 698 billion

When Obama came into office defense spending was 698 billion,when he left it was around 600 billion

Obama only went over 700 billion twice at 721 and 717,thats only around 20 billion more than Bush left and Obama left defense spending around 100 billion lower than it was when he came into office . Bush on the other hand left office with defense spending twice as much as it was when he came into office.


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