Did shortboy.com bite the dust?

daniel_m · Feb 3, 2003

Quote from Vinny Gigante:

How many other short sellers profited from 1996-1999? None.
That's why shortboy is going to be a great money manager!

none? hmm, call me stupid, but that sounds like a far greater LIE than anything Babak or Tony ever said!

and the smart money probably wasn't selling short during 96-99 -- they were too busy making an absolute mockery of shortboy's pitiful returns by going long!

and shortboy a money manager? bahahahahaha. obviously you have no choice but to pretend that i never exposed the complete fallacy of comparing a light weight trader like shortboy to investment funds handling multi millions!

as pitiful as a 4% return in 2002 -- once again, a golden year for short selling -- it's even worse because:
1) as i already said, 42% of this return came from INTEREST
and
2) because it's ridiculous to call it a 4% return on EQUITY. see, shortboy had been trading for many years before 2002, and making profits that would take his total equity to a LOT HIGHER than $100,000.... so any REAL trader would measure the return he made in '02 on his TOTAL EQUITY. when you look at like that, 2002 was a COMPLETE WASH for shorty.

Katrina Johns · Feb 3, 2003

Quote from Vinny Gigante:

ronbgelf, nothing specific, just a name to get through babaks power hungry little fingers.

LOL

Vinny Gigante · Feb 3, 2003

daniel "..absolute mockery of shortboy's pitiful returns"

returns of +76% in 1996, +49% in 1997, +40% in 1998, +32% in 1999. audited returns according to the book by the wharton grads.

I certainly wouldnt call those "pitiful", the term applies better to a loser like yourself. come on, spew some more profanity, daniel. you one jealous SOB

and watch how I never acknowedge you AGAIN!

daniel_m · Feb 3, 2003

Quote from Vinny Gigante:

daniel "..absolute mockery of shortboy's pitiful returns"

returns of +76% in 1996, +49% in 1997, +40% in 1998, +32% in 1999. audited returns according to the book by the wharton grads.

I certainly wouldnt call those "pitiful", the term applies better to a loser like yourself. come on, spew some more profanity, daniel. you one jealous SOB

and watch how I never acknowedge you AGAIN!

exactly vinny! PITIFUL returns! thanks for illustrating it! not to brag or anything, but for '02, my own results compared to shorty's are so far superior it's not funny (i'm talking WAY over 100%...)

and "audited returns" means he actually MADE those trades... so... tell us vinny, did he???

but lemme guess... i should looking at the TRADES right vinny? the TRADES!

Babak · Feb 3, 2003

Quote from Vinny Gigante:

my guess is he parlayed the great recognition he received, and moved on to be a money manager.

Yeah, I heard Steve Cohen begged him to come onboard SAC and sit in a corner to earn interest.

Babak · Feb 4, 2003

Quote from Vinny Gigante:

of course I was also ronbgelf and leonj. That's after babak got the controls and deleted those accounts, forcing me to do so.

Once Baron came back, vinny was reinstated. I dont need aliases, as you can see. I'm happy as vinny.

what are you smoking? no really, what is it? cilantro? bay leaves? maybe some nice rolled up basil?

how could you be "ronbgelf" and "leonj" if I had supposedly deleted those accounts? how does one use a deleted account? how did I 'get the controls'? you do know that only Baron can erase accounts?

Man-o Man! stick to weed boy! those garden herbs will play havoc with your brains.

Vinny Gigante · Feb 4, 2003

for many moons, we here from reliable sources like babak and the incomparable tony oz that shortboy was "misrepresenting" or "misleading".

After alot of tooth pulling , and back and forth, babak finally says, "look on shortboy's website, he even says what he did"

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?threadid=13384&perpage=6&pagenumber=7

HE EVEN SAYS WHAT HE DID ????

So if shortboy is describing his calculations, isn't he "representing" what he's doing ?? If he tells you what he's doing, he's being forthcoming and honest, right? Of course he is. Shortboy was always upfront about what he did, and no one can tell you different. Even babak refers you to the part where shortboy "tells you what he's doing"

go spin this one, whomever.

ryanmitcho · Feb 5, 2003

hey babak- can we delete this vinny gigante (aka shortboy) jackass as well??- this crap is getting old......

Vinny Gigante · Feb 5, 2003

ryan bitchel, who has posted 20 times, about 8 of them in the "shortboy" thread, who just in the last week became a member. hmmm??

And he has directed most of his expertise to shortboy threads!

remember his famous words of advice "invest your time in learning to trade, not in cutting and pasting..." or whatever (qote on link below), gave a few ET members a good laugh

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?threadid=13384&perpage=6&pagenumber=2

ryan, read the upper right corner of the screen to see who the moderator is. Or am I asking too much from you?

Wappers2 · Feb 5, 2003

Quote from Vinny Gigante:

ryan bitchel, who has posted 20 times, about 8 of them in the "shortboy" thread, who just in the last week became a member. hmmm??

bad news Vinny, Ryan = Mr Market.

He cannot be harmed by conventional weapons.