Did Interactive Active Brokers Honor CHF Stops Thursday ?

volpunter thanks for your posts. I am totally freaked out by this event-looking over my code and cash limits per fx cross. I am even considering moving to "safer" tickers such as ETF's ..but now I am worried that I am overreacting.The past year as I build up my algo code , I have been so cavalier about not looking at fundamentals -stupid and naive enough to think that the tape tells the tale. (What an ass)! I was. Now I am trying to get my hands on stuff so that I can be in a better position to know what pairs to avoid at all if there structural things (ie pegs) can cause black swans on them. If you have any suggestions on what to avoid, I'd appreciate a heads up so I can drill down further on the fundamentals of such.

Hello MushinSeeker:

You said you wanted to know “what pairs to avoid”. So here's a heads up from Oanda that just came in today.


From: Oanda

Wednesday, January 21, 2015

Subject: URGENT: CHF, SEK, NOK MARGIN CHANGE

...

If you trade CHF, SEK, NOK action may be required.

Effective 6:00 PM EST, January 22, 2015, the National Futures Association (NFA) has imposed a requirement that forex brokerages reduce the available leverage on certain currencies due to the extraordinary market conditions.

As directed by the NFA, OANDA will be changing margin requirements for 3 currencies. The affected currencies are the Swiss Franc, Swedish Krona and Norwegian Krone.

Currency Previous Margin Requirement New Margin Requirement

Swiss Franc (CHF) 2% 5%

Swedish Krona (SEK) 2% 3%

Norwegian Krone (NOK) 2% 3%

As a result of this change, accounts with positions in these currencies will show a reduction of margin available at 5:00 PM EST on January 22, 2015. If this margin available falls below the 50% closeout margin specified in your customer account, all open positions in your account will be immediately closed.

IF YOU TRADE THESE PAIRS, we strongly encourage you to review your account immediately and close sufficient positions by 5:00 PM EST on January 22, 2015 to ensure you have sufficient margin available to avoid closeout of all your positions.

We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause you.

...

Thank you for trading with OANDA.

Kind Regards,

The OANDA Client Experience Team
 
Volpunter

There is a big mistake in your reasoning.
Obviously, you confound acts of God and financial failure.
In terms of probability, it is impossible to predict a tsunami, earthquake, September 11 ...
But a failure?! If you do your homework, of course!

For example, you could easily predict SNB would implode ! When you need to buy 90% of the Swiss GDP to keep your PEG alive, it is impossible it lasts forever!!! In my case, I was waiting for more than 1 year to see PEG implode! Probability to implode : 100% ! And we were numerous to know that!
This is the same if you say it was impossible to predict subprimes crise, or peripherical debt crisis ! When you get a financial failure, people don't want to see reality. But SOONER OR LATER, when reality is unavoidable, boom!



Really ??? I got another "prediction" for you : I can predict for the coming year that US Equities will get a wild correction you never saw for long ! Probability : 100%.
I can predict lots and lots of people will lose FORTUNES. Probability : 100%.
Am I a genius ? No ! I know the rules, I know how the game works, I do my homework and I got too many experience to be naive and think bad things never happen !!

Hello Chris Mac:

Congratulations on your Swiss PEG insights. I am curious on how you formulated a trade for that event. Did you just place a EURCHF sell stop order perhaps ? How exactly did you take advantage of such an event if you don't mind saying ?
 
Nonono, I did not say that!!! :p:D

Hello Nobody:

Some one told me nobody knows the future. So how high do you think gold will go in the next 12 months ?

I must be going crazy. I'm actually asking nobody for help. Usually I just talk to myself.
  • :)
 
Hello Nobody:

Some one told me nobody knows the future. So how high do you think gold will go in the next 12 months ?

I must be going crazy. I'm actually asking nobody for help. Usually I just talk to myself.
  • :)

I know what the gold will do. I will tell it to nobody. :cool:
 
Hello Chris Mac:

Congratulations on your Swiss PEG insights. I am curious on how you formulated a trade for that event. Did you just place a EURCHF sell stop order perhaps ? How exactly did you take advantage of such an event if you don't mind saying ?

Hello Anubis,

Well, with the EURCHF, I made nothing. Nada. Zero.
1 I am not a forex trader, I am a multi-asset player, essentially equities, bonds and derivatives.
2 I knew that SNB was cooked. I knew it was a question of weeks rather than months. But I had not the timing... January, March, June? I can't afford making a trade two months too early and waiting, making prays every day ? Buy and hold? No way!
3 I didn't know if the impact would be 10%, 20%, 30% increase of the CHF?
No targets means I can't quantify my positions.
4 This was not a liquid bet and I was not an expert on it.

Moreover, how can you keep your trades ("buy and hold") when there are lot of people looking over your shoulder, second-guessing you, arguing with you every day? Impossible.
You need to be right with a good timing and make money fast.

I give you 2 last examples to explain why I need to make money fast :
1 I began to be heavily long equities 15th of October 14.
And you know what ? Every hour, someone would tell me to sell everything, that it was the end of the world bla bla. I was right "too early" for 1 day ?! I didn't sell, I kept my positions but I could have been in big troubles if equities were down one more week. Now I prefer to laugh at it but these are the rules.

2 Two weeks ago, I began to short the US markets and long US bonds, and you know what? Every day, every hour, someone would explain me that Draghi and friends are ready to save (again) the world... Even if I am right, I could be forced to close my shorts equities because two weeks are too long nowadays! That's life, again these are the rules!

Chris Mac
 
Hello Anubis,

Well, with the EURCHF, I made nothing. Nada. Zero.
1 I am not a forex trader, I am a multi-asset player, essentially equities, bonds and derivatives.
2 I knew that SNB was cooked. I knew it was a question of weeks rather than months. But I had not the timing... January, March, June? I can't afford making a trade two months too early and waiting, making prays every day ? Buy and hold? No way!
3 I didn't know if the impact would be 10%, 20%, 30% increase of the CHF?
No targets means I can't quantify my positions.
4 This was not a liquid bet and I was not an expert on it.

Moreover, how can you keep your trades ("buy and hold") when there are lot of people looking over your shoulder, second-guessing you, arguing with you every day? Impossible.
You need to be right with a good timing and make money fast.

I give you 2 last examples to explain why I need to make money fast :
1 I began to be heavily long equities 15th of October 14.
And you know what ? Every hour, someone would tell me to sell everything, that it was the end of the world bla bla. I was right "too early" for 1 day ?! I didn't sell, I kept my positions but I could have been in big troubles if equities were down one more week. Now I prefer to laugh at it but these are the rules.

2 Two weeks ago, I began to short the US markets and long US bonds, and you know what? Every day, every hour, someone would explain me that Draghi and friends are ready to save (again) the world... Even if I am right, I could be forced to close my shorts equities because two weeks are too long nowadays! That's life, again these are the rules!

Chris Mac

Hello Chris Mac:

Thanks. I see. Timing is key. So why did you get heavily long equities 15th of October 14 which was great timing and then two weeks ago short the US markets and long US bonds ? That is absolutely amazing. It seems to me the day after 15th of October 14 equities could have just as likely continued downwards. Also where was your stop after going long 15th of October 14 in equities ?
 
Hello Chris Mac:

Thanks. I see. Timing is key. So why did you get heavily long equities 15th of October 14 which was great timing and then two weeks ago short the US markets and long US bonds ? That is absolutely amazing. It seems to me the day after 15th of October 14 equities could have just as likely continued downwards. Also where was your stop after going long 15th of October 14 in equities ?

Well I will explain you and I am sure you will find a bit "basic" but it worked in this case.
See graph below (Nasdaq).
Usually former big resistances can be great supports.
Moving Average 200 (in yellow here) is usually a great support too.
At that time : 3740 was the former big resistance
MA 200 was @ 3770.
For me, 3740/3770 was the best entry point.

I bought the 15th on average @3760.
Stops were below 3700 and 3650, in order to try again to buy between 3400 and 3600 if markets continued to collapse.
Sadly, I exited @4100 because I was afraid of a double top... That was a mistake because I considered that a lot of people bought early with me... Reality was that majority bought later...
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Hope it helps

Chris Mac
 
Hello Chris Mac:

Thanks. I see. Timing is key. So why did you get heavily long equities 15th of October 14 which was great timing and then two weeks ago short the US markets and long US bonds ? That is absolutely amazing. It seems to me the day after 15th of October 14 equities could have just as likely continued downwards. Also where was your stop after going long 15th of October 14 in equities ?

Why am I bear?
I think Apple, number 1 stock in the world is ready for a big correction.
Sure I can be wrong and I wouldn't be the last to buy all the world but I think probabilities are higher on the downside.

Again a graph...
When Apple was stopped @115, that was for me an orange flag.
Then it was rapidly a red flag when the traditional "end of year rally" didn't want to happen.
So I was short.
As of today, stochastics of Apple are still in a bad shape.
My target is USD80/90 if support (green) breaks. USD70 in case of a big panic.
Maybe it will, maybe it won't, who knows? As I am writing these lines, probabilities are still on my favor.
Now I need to make some trades, sorry if I can't answer others questions today.

Chris Mac

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Why am I bear?
I think Apple, number 1 stock in the world is ready for a big correction.
Sure I can be wrong and I wouldn't be the last to buy all the world but I think probabilities are higher on the downside.

Again a graph...
When Apple was stopped @115, that was for me an orange flag.
Then it was rapidly a red flag when the traditional "end of year rally" didn't want to happen.
So I was short.
As of today, stochastics of Apple are still in a bad shape.
My target is USD80/90 if support (green) breaks. USD70 in case of a big panic.
Maybe it will, maybe it won't, who knows? As I am writing these lines, probabilities are still on my favor.
Now I need to make some trades, sorry if I can't answer others questions today.

Chris Mac

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Hello Chris Mac:

Thanks for the answers to my questions, great explanations. It helps a lot. Good luck on your trading.

Anubis
 
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